Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth appeared to acknowledge that the Pentagon has developed plans to take over Greenland and Panama by force if necessary but refused to answer repeated questions at a hotly combative congressional hearing Thursday about his use of Signal chats to discuss military operations.
Democratic members of the House Armed Services Committee repeatedly got into heated exchanges with Hegseth, with some of the toughest lines of questioning coming from military veterans as many demanded yes or no answers and he tried to avoid direct responses about his actions as Pentagon chief.
In one back-and-forth, Hegseth did provide an eyebrow-raising answer. Rep. Adam Smith, D-Wash., asked whether the Pentagon has developed plans to take Greenland or Panama by force if necessary.
FAFO
I wonder if Denmark regrets this yet (arc)
With 94 votes in favor and only 11 against, the Danish parliament last night (June 11) passed a new defense agreement granting the United States extended access to military bases in three Danish cities: Karup, Skrydstrup, and Aalborg. The deal allows the US military to operate from these sites, store military equipment, conduct maintenance, exercises, and station personnel. The US forces will also have autonomous legal jurisdiction over their own military, relieving them from compliance with Danish law in the first degree.
Oh trust me, the Danish people find this highly criricisable. It’s been debated a lot over the past months - but the government - which is made up of the neoliberal parties who’s always had their tongues way up USA’s ass - has done everything they can to push it under the rug and to make it as secretive as possible. These people see only profit and the thought of “losing” USA as a partner is worse than the fact that we just invited the enemy in - with a deal where they can do whatever they want to do and we can’t even take them to court. Officially it’s because of “the Russian threat” but the only country that’d ever invade Denmark or has ever threatened to do so is USA… Russia has a few other countries to go through and they can’t even win their current war.
We’ve just always been an American puppet state.
There must be some interesting behind the scenes to this, considering trump has repeatedly threatened their sovereignty in Greenland
We’d absolutely use Denmark as a springboard to invade Greenland.
Have they said why they’re so obsessed over Greenland? I don’t mean why you think they want it, i mean has any of them ever said why?
The Mercator projection made Greenland look very big on the map.
People tend to equate when a country or empire has the most territory as it being at it’s height.
It’s a vanity thing. He wants to see the words ‘The United States of America was at it’s territorial peak under President Donald Trump’ echo through history.
The word on the street is that Peter Thiel and friends wan’t it for a tech bro network state, with no regulation on AI (as in LLMs) and other tech fantasies.
Don’t have a link, but it’s public known that Thiel and friends wan’t it, and that they seem to have the man in power in on it.
That’s interesting. I haven’t heard that yet. I can see them thinking like that.
Also went a while before I heard it. Here are some links:
Thank you!
I think they’ve said for strategic military reasons (don’t know what’s wrong with all the EU bases we have) but likely it’s because of natural resources. Typical authoritarian shit.
ice, global warming, melty melt, geologists would have a rsging boner whats there becoming accessible
Maybe oil & gas or mineral geologists. Scientific geologists, like all other scientists, are horrified at the stark changes due to global warming. A few years ago it rained for the first time on record at summit station, historically it was always snow. Now it’s warm enough to rain.
Significant presence in the Arctic circle which may become more valuable with some climate change and/or closer relationship with Russia.
At least that’s what I’d guess. Similar story with Canada, more land to have a better chance to respond to climate change.
It’s less weird to have a contingency plan than it is to specifically mention it.
how can it be necessary to invade a country?
Resources. The answer is always resources.
Necessary resources*
As long as you’re counting location as a resource. Ex. Cuba was an advantageous location for the Soviet Union during the cold war.
Idk, the gdp of Greenland is only 3b a year and it’s mostly from fishing. There’s really nothing the US could extract from Greenland that would be worth the cost of invading it. There’s some potential for mining, but you’d have to build an entire infrastructure to do it, and we don’t even want to invest in building infrastructure in the US.
Realistically the only thing that makes Greenland strategically important would be controlling the shipping lanes up north. However, the only strategically significant rival we have that utilizes those shopping lanes are Russia, whom the administration wants to buddy up too.
I think it’s just meat they throw out to the media anytime they want to distract from their failures, and of course our pathetic press just gobbles it up every time.
It’s because of climate change. Rich Americans+that pretend climate change isn’t real) want to go there to bug out.
Lots of great reasons that aren’t the actual reason.
Greenland is very big on the map, and if it was apart of the United States then the US would look so big on the map.
Everyone says Trajan was the best roman emperor because the roman empire had the largest amount of territory under him, ergo if Greenland or Canada became part of the US then everyone would say the same thing about Trump.
That is the only reasoning behind this obsession.
I’d def agree with that before him wanting resources.
Ask Putin. He is a big specialist in a related mental gymnastics. He’ll tell you how Anglo-Saksonians forced him to invade Ukraine.
Whenever a republican president wants to be reelected
This by no means diminishes this guy’s level of evil stupidity, but I’m entirely certain the pentagon had developed plans for all kinds of batshit insane shenanigans, including (but not limited to) invasions of probably most other countries in the world.
We stopped maintaining a handful of them, but waay later than you would expect. At some point we decided we didn’t need a plan to deal with an invasion by the British empire kept up to date at all times.
I think they have alien invasion plans.
They 100% do.
Zombies, aliens, Zeus and the gods of Olympus attacking Pearl Harbor…if you can imagine it there’s a folder in the Pentagon somewhere with general plans
norse gods, angel invasion.
This is documentary footage. You can’t argue with science.
I find that a credible thought, though one would imagine an answer to say that they try to have plans for any concevaiable scenario, no matter how unlikely, and have done so for years.
One would imagine if he was good at this politics thing, he would have found an answer to distance such plans from the current contentious situation.
Or not even mention them at all, because what possible beneficial purpose could there be to divulging anything related to your military strategy or planning beforehand?
These people are too stupid and incompetent to realize we already have plans for everything.
Hegseth: You there! Jackson! I want plans on how to invade Greenland on my desk by the end of the week!
Johnson: [Looks at filing cabinet full of plans for invading every other country] Oh, yeah, sure thing, sir. Gonna be a few all-nighters, though. Me and the boys are gonna need some pizzas and a few bottles of Mountain Dew and some cinnamon dipperz.
Hegseth: No problem! Just take it out of the Preventing Kids From Being Thrown Into The Orphan Crushing Machine fund! You’re a good man Jackson!
Johnson: Sir, yes sir.
Hegseth: [takes enormous swig out of family-sized plastic bottle of bourbon]
Johnson’s a real straight shooter. He’s got upper management written all over him.
Frankly, good planning is the key to success at just about anything in life. The concept of having plans is not evil at all. And certainlynot in a military sense. What if Greenland got taken over by vampires? You don’t know. In that event, it would be good to have this plan on the books. Probably in no other circumstance besides that one but hey, there’s not anything wrong with having a plan.
“Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.”
I thought that was the definition of the pentagon? 🤔
The DoD had a plan to attack the U.S. and blame it on Cuba. Not an invasion, but attacks.
Everyone has contigency plans for war with their neighbors and allies.
the difference between Most of the world, and Agressive countries like Russia, America, Israel, Iran and China, is that the rest of the world generally has those plans be “if Attacked by X, We will do Y”
Well, there are “plans” and then there are plans. I’m certain Canada has a “plan” for military operations against the US should that be necessary, but we aren’t planning it.
I have plans to start flossing regularly too.
We have contingency plans to invade just about every country on earth, if we didn’t military planners wouldn’t be doing their job
did he hear they have booze there or something?
“Oh shit, we’re getting hammered with our Constitutional violations all over the news! We have to do something”
A little thinking, then some genius looks across the room
“Hey!! Hegseth, finish that drink and then go threaten Greenland like the alcoholic Nazi you are. That’ll distract them!”
The US wants to attack a NATO partner?!?! Krasnov is working for the Kremlin to destabilize NATO.
no, only ‘if necessary’ lol
Which would trigger WW3.
Doubtful
It’s not necessary to take Greenland at all, so there’s no need for a contingency plan. “if necessary” makes no sense.
So Russia is going to test article 5, and so is the US. Interesting.
