Today the U.S. House of Representatives passed the TAKE IT DOWN Act, giving the powerful a dangerous new route to manipulate platforms into removing lawful speech that they simply don’t like. President Trump himself has said that he would use the law to censor his critics. The bill passed the Senate in February, and it now heads to the president’s desk.

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    3 months ago

    Call it what it is: a censorship law. Apparently the climate of fear that makes people self-censor wasn’t enough.

    Watch for a LOT of ‘extreme left’ opinions get taken down and their authors imprisoned.

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          Since it’s not specifically partisan there’s a good chance scotus will actually follow the law on this one.

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        The NSA mass surveillance program that Snowden blew the whistle on was found unconstitutional during Obama II. THAT SAME AFTERNOON, the Republican Congress and Senate passed the (I shit you not, this is what this MF is named) USA FREEDOM ACT that basically re-instantiated the program and Obama signed it straightaway. Turns out, they were able to get shit done quick and in a hurry when the shit was fascism.

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      It won’t stop with journalists and authors. They’ll be looking in Facebook posts, Reddit comments, Twitter threads, Instagram, etc. And random citizens are going to start disappearing.
      They’ll want people to know it can happen to anyone, not just the most visible or high profile critics.

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        Politicians are still too afraid of optics, they don’t want to be on record as voting against taking down revenge porn. Too many of these bills are written with a good-sounding premise but the details are where they get you.

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          Yet they are happy to hand the criminal who is actively shooting people another loaded weapon because “optics”.

          They are the kind of people that say you should stay with a partner that rapes and abuses you because it might make family gatherings weird if you complain.
          Fuck those people.

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      So just assume they voted yes since only 2 republicans voted against including the Democrats

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          My guess is they never read any of it, but heard the Democrats were voting “yes” so they voted “no” purely for opposition.

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        Fascism is an integration of government and corporations. Democrats are officially just the other side of the coin after this. 100% one party in the country. The longer any politician fights under the banner of Republican or Democrat the longer they want this system to continue.

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        I think because the sentiment of the bill is good.

        The problem is on the required action and the broad definition of what a “covered platform” is.

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        Because the mainstream democrats (the corpocentrists, mostly) believe that the tools of fascism and oppression are perfectly fine to keep around as long as they’re wielded by enlightened leadership. All you have to do is simply never lose an election ever. Nbd. Why do they want to keep the tools of fascism around? Uh… (Hurriedly stuffing cash in pockets) Safety, terrorists or child molesters or something, look don’t worry about it.

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    Remember, America, it’s through your inaction that these changes are possible. Really, they should be thanking you for standing aside and letting them remodel the whole government.

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      I’m fighting back in the ways I can.

      Namely by reducing my contribution to the eternal consumption engine while convincing others to do the same so our rulers have fewer resources to use against us.

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    OK so this is meant for revenge porn / stolen photos… but it’s written so broadly that it will affect basically any online speech. Great.

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      it passed. it fucking passed. i don’t think people realize what they’re about to use this for (or at least they don’t fully realize the implications).

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          They all did along with all but two Republicans. Funny how they have no problem working together on stuff like this, but when it comes to anything that helps the American people suddenly there’s a ton of manufactured controversy as if we were watching a scripted pro wrestling match.

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        Trump’s fascist agenda was always their agenda as well. They just weren’t quite as openly racist about it. Democrats have oppressed minorities as much as republicans have, and it wasn’t Trump that was sending riot police to crush peaceful sit-in student protests against genocide. That was a democrat, and was only the latest in a long line of truly horrible things the democrats have done in the name of fascism.

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    While this is bullshit, we should be able to weaponize it right back at them - any lies the administration spews (which let’s face it, that’s everything) needs to be reported relentlessly.

    Make them feel it!

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        The article mentioned requiring a reporting mechanism which must be resolved within 48 hours. Because of the impracticality of the timeframe it went on to assume that anything reported would just be removed.

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          Yeah that will only be true for the rich and powerful. Ever go to the police as a poor for stalking?

          The same way that Facebook can say “no” when you ask them to stop training AI on your data they will just send it to an automated not that will find no issue and deny the takedown but for those that pay I’m sure it will be very effective.

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      She did. She ‘objected to some of the wording’ but jumped in line like a good little puppet.

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        Her and Bernie won’t acknowledge palestinian defenders in their rallies. Puppets to the bone like all the others, just another form of controlled opposition.

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      She’s part of the problem.

      We like to believe she isn’t, but she’s a proud consumer just like the rest of them.

      She will never fight back against the culture of consumption until it becomes cool to do so.

      I can eat for literal days, having several pounds of meat, for $15. Meanwhile she feels justified in defending spending $15 on avocado toast and her useful idiots support her because they’re part of the problem, too.

      All democrats become conservatives when their consumerism is threatened.

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        She absolutely was a progressive, until that corporate lobby money started hitting her bank account.

        Now her bullshit is just performative, like all the rest.

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      Not a rumor, only 2 house members voted against (both republican).

      mfw we can pass a bipartisan spy law no problem but a bipartisan daylight savings law is still too hard.

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        To be fair, DST is a more complicated issue. Everyone wants to end it, but there’s disagreement on how to do it.

        One side wants to not be missing an hour of sleep half the year and wants to go to standard time only.

        The other side is psychopaths. We had a Spring Forward. I’m owed a Fall Back. If they try to take that away from me, I’ll take up arms.

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    Democrats on lemmy after the election: Not voting against Trump is no better than a vote for him.

    Democrats after a vote that allows Trump to censor whomever he wants: Not voting is #Resistance.

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    House of Representatives passed the TAKE IT DOWN

    I am confused. The title say congress passed the bill while the article says the house is the one that passed it (so congress should be next).

    Which is it?

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      Literally the most basic of basic civics… Depressing.

      Congress is our legislators. Our Congress is “bicameral”. It is broken down into two houses: the Senate (upper house of Congress), and the House of Representatives (lower house of Congress).

      People often use “Congress” as a shorthand for the House of Representatives (but only when they also mention the Senate to make the distinction. Or at least some sort of context making it clear they mean the House).

      However, technically, “Congress” includes both houses.

      Nobody refers to the Senate alone as “Congress,” and if they do, they’re doing it wrong and likely causing all sorts of confusion.

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      Congress is the combination of the House of Representatives and the Senate. America has a bicameral legislature. (Congress=House of Reps + Senate)

      Because this passed the Senate in Feb and the House recently it is correct to say that this bill has passed Congress.

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    “Flood the zone” benefits both parties when it comes to power grab shit like this. This barely made headlines until it was already passed and it’s too late.

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      I think you mean the communications decency act? Most of that has been found to be unconstitutional as will likely be the fate of this bill…

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      Yeah but the DMCA was vaguely reasonable. This is meant to be weaponized.

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        the DMCA was vaguely reasonable

        No it wasn’t. It too was MEANT to be weaponized from day one. The difference is that almost all of the people in control of both parties and all mainstream media were in favor, so it got a false veneer of reasonability in coverage.

        The DMCA is just as bad as SOPA and PIPA, which was always the intent from the powerful industry groups lobbying for all three bills and the politicians they own.

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    American decline is happening at a much faster pace than I anticipated.

    If you don’t own a gun, now is the time.

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      I’m American, and I vote heavily splintered. We are constantly doing shit that is profoundly evil, so we need to be weakened enough that we don’t have the ability to project power outside our own borders, for the safety of the Middle East and other small countries the world over.