What was the computer doing in the bathroom in the first place?
Surely “fuck off you stupid cunt” is the only reasonable response to such a request?
Exactly. I would NEVER “prove” anything to anyone. The proper response is to collect their name, the manager’s name, and hire a lawyer to send a letter to corporate.
maybe next time you go and vote instead of looking at tiktok
Where does the article say she didn’t vote, or that she was even 18 ten months ago?
I’m quite sure they were referring to the many people who sat out the election due to concerns over genocide, which - fun fact - we’re getting anyway, but now with bonus fascism.
What does that have to do with watching tiktok? Seems like a regular boomer-ass comment to me.
I can only speculate, but maybe because TikTok and other social media algorithms were one of the main ways that the election was influenced by bad actors.
BWW is a trash ass company!! I was on restrictions where I couldn’t lift anything more than 5lbs and then couldn’t be on my feet for a prolonged time due to a back injury I had at the school I taught and this manager has the audacity to tell me I still could work a double and yelled at me about how messed up it was that I couldn’t come in (I had doctors notes and gave him notice). I then so upset called corporate and complained about what happened to me and they promised to follow up and ensure that doesn’t happens to anyone else given my doctors notes. Well come to find out, he was fired two weeks after my corporate complaint! So hopefully they do the same because that company is truly horrid and that server is a POS! NAME HER! Haha.
So you called out a shitty boss\employee to upper management and they fired him. I’m pretty sure that response means they actually do care about these kind of situations. Sorry you dealt with a manager that didn’t understand an applicable HR situation, but that doesn’t mean the whole company is trash. Hopefully they do react the same for this situation.
Yes but I had to deal with calling corporate because he wouldn’t put me on leave. I was injured as a teacher and had notes and still wouldn’t give. He put me on doubles but I shouldn’t have had to call corporate, that’s the point. Also, almost always my order from BWW is wrong, why we don’t eat there anymore.
Not trying to pay for wrong orders, terrible service, and mediocre food. I agree, they did handle it appropriately but only after I called corporate because he wouldn’t stop calling me to try to get me to come in. That shouldn’t have happened. Glad he’s gone but can’t imagine what’s happening at other stores. My friend worked there for a year and the entire time she hated it, management, and would come home to our apartment crying almost everyday. (I thought it was just that store-until I experienced it myself firsthand from another store).
If you’re a minor being questioned like this, start screaming PEDO. Guaranteed they back down once they realize what she said and what they’re doing is quite disturbing
I’ll remember this when I’m an 18 year old minor
Guaranteed they back down once they realize what she said and what they’re doing is quite disturbing
Cruelty isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. MAGA has a massive cruelty hardon. The dumbth voted for this because they are seething with resentment at being made to feel stupid (by the “intellectual elites”) and backwards (by progressives) and ignorant (by the informed) and intolerant (by the woke). You can literally hear what they’re pissed about in the names that they call people. They WANT people hurt. They WANT revenge. THIS is what the dumbth want.
Well, I want THEM hurt too! I want them to get the peeeerfect caricature of what they believe in, and watch them suffer under.
I want them to be smarter and less hateful. They would be a lot happier if they worked to improve themselves instead of trying to tear everyone else down.
She’s not a minor.
You think the genital police can tell the difference between an adult and a child?
Nope, shout “Fire”. No one comes for rape, I doubt anymore come for pedo. But fire? They’ll come.
I feel like yelling fire will make people run away, not toward.
Don’t yell Rape, or every MAGA will come running to join in.
You would think. But no, apparently most human beings are kinda weird, and mostly stupid. Just look at how people behave behind the wheel of a car, when they are driving past an accident. It could be someone turned into a meat crayon, or looking like Anakin Skywalker after Obi Wan cuts his legs off. People not only break sharply to see whats going on, everyone behind them does as well. Usually creating very slowed down traffic for miles if there enough of them.
I think it has something to do with getting involved. Rape, you have to get involved. Pedo, you have to get involved, fire? You can just watch. I mean, dont quote me on that. Thats just a guess as to why it happens.
Those fucking creeps need to start catching lead
Sadly we are at a point that only ends in civil unrest or war
i witnessed a young woman crying at a mcdonalds the other day. she walked into the ladies room and a man was in there jerking off.
the problem has nothing to do with gender.
the problem is assholes.
this server is a sex predator and needs prison.
He was just playing a friendly game of “hold the pickles”.
*She. Come on the us is an equal sex predator nation.
Who’s “us”?
The short form for the nation of no longer united states…
What an absolute fascist restraunt
you keep using that word… i do not think it means what you think it means
arguing with absolutism vs expediency i see
You’re right, BWW probably isn’t fit to be called a restaurant
Who in the world said servers are authorized to demand such a thing?
Republicans
She apparently was a self-appointed bathroom gender-inspector. Transphobes feeling bold these days.
He should be arrested and charged with sexaual assault of a minor. Fucking pedophile. What restaurant? They should be hounded for employing a pedophile.
It’s like the first line in the article. Buffalo Wild Wings.
It’s in the summary if you didn’t open the article as well. Says 18 and Buffalo Wild Wings. There seems to be an increase of accounts saying random remarks that could look bad, or bad talking anyone left of MAGA and saying things that would only sow doubt or cause division.
2024 there was always clashing between the left and the Democrats and a bunch of name calling of centrists and what not… But it simmered down it seemed. I have a feeling we are only going to see it pick back up slowly until it’s all division again in 2026.
She, and the victim was 18 and clearly an adult.
Yeah, newsflash woman can be monsters as well!
True, but it does make her not a male pedophile, just a creep in a bathroom harassing other women
It was a woman.
And the victim is not a minor.
Did she prove it?
Transphobes feeling bold these days.
Are there any repricussions to them behaving this way?
We don’t even know if the server is a transphobe, maybe it was just an excuse for them to demand to see a child’s genitals.
They’ve got the iron fist of a dictatorship behind them.
They need an iron fist in the face.
Username checks out
They don’t have anything to fear in amerikkka
republican nazis and democrat asskissers and pushover cosplaying liberals let all this happen.
Still pretending like you leftists didn’t directly help lead the country to a shit hole by your Jill Stein votes or your non-votes?
Leftists? How’s Gaza looking? Your inaction is why they will be starved to death.
But whatever helps you sleep at night.
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-election-non-voters-coalition
Maybe check your facts and stop spreading disinformation to cover for the abject failures of the DNC leadership and their chosen candidates. It’s not like we didn’t have two presidential elections prior to 2024 where the Dems lost or nearly lost to learn from yet they decided to lean into these failed strategies even harder in 2024 with very predictable results. It’s almost as if they wanted Trump to win.
what is it about losing that makes you so upset? if harris wanted to win she’d have stopped SUPPORTING A GENOCIDE.
I did not vote for anyone who supported genocide.
Why the fuck are you ok with it? there is no such thing as a thrown away vote, only recalcitrance from people who won’t admit they’re ok voting for someone who fucking supports genocide. Go fuck yourself.
It’s always amazing to me how people will blame those that couldn’t stomach voting for a pro-genocide candidate, instead of blaming the candidate for being pro-genocide.
I don’t blame those who didn’t vote for Kamala for her stance on Israel, I get it. I’m just tired of people who didn’t vote specifically against Trump then act really surprised that the Democrats are putting up an anemic defense of our rights, because in theory they should have expected it, given how they voted. Asking why Democrats aren’t stopping fascism when you ostensibly did not support them because you felt they would not do enough to stop fascism should be readily apparent.
I am not using “you” here as in you, piefood, just as a general you
I get what your saying, and to some extent I agree. But I also don’t think that they would be fighting fascism if they had more power. When they were the majority, they spent their time building up the systems that the fascists are using. They built up the surveillance state, immigration control, torture programs and the police/military powers. They should have spent their time dismantling it, but the Democratics have the mindset of “It’s OK when the Blue Team does these things. Surely the Red Team won’t use that against us!”
it’s all decades of manufactured consent
Fucking morons complain about the stranglehold that the Israel lobby has on this country, yet cannot understand how outright support for Palestine, in 2023-2024 would have completely sank any presidential campaign.
neat. where have we seen that rhetoric before? oh right. a century ago.
israel is doing a genocid. trump is a fascist.
i can’t vote for either.
no rep or dem candidate ran that fit my moral criteria on those hard lines.
if YOU are ok with genocide or fascism, you do you and go follow your leader.
You voted explicitly in favor of Trump you fraud
Trump voters voted for Trump. You really need to get out of your bubble and talk to them, instead of regarding them as some sort of immutable force like the weather.
You admitted to voting for trump. A vote for third party was a vote for trump. We’re done here you Russian fuckin troll
No, it’s really not a vote for Trump. Those votes aren’t his, or Harris’s
You can tell because they count the votes and everything. Oops, I mean, everybody else can tell. Just not you.
how? lol. try again.
Russian fraud. Bye
If you didn’t support a genocide, you would have done something about it
and I am.
A fraud
Lol. You didn’t vote period. So you don’t deserve a say in anything going forward.
Once again, tankie. How’s Gaza looking? Because of people like you, I’d say pretty fucked. Especially since you are still using the Biden genocide excuse to not take responsibility for Trump’s ACTUAL genocide.
But whatever helps you cope.
I find it very telling that you blame the person who couldn’t stomach to vote for genocide, instead of blaming your polticians for being pro-genocide.
thank you. well said.
? I voted but not for harris and not for trump. I don’t vote for genocide. try again.
So then you don’t know how voting works in America? It’s easily learned.
seems like you don’t. i vote for the candidate that fits who I wish to win. marketing and propaganda have you thinking a 3rd party is a thrown away vote. Want to fix that? vote for someone who doesn’t support genocide.
Yes! Third party votes pressure D and R to change their platform and get those votes.
Even if you don’t think so, it still happens. For example, Socialists have been fighting for a minimum wage since 1910 (and still fight for higher wages today). They are the only reason for Democrats adopting a pro-labor position in the 30s. I could go on, but it’s all brand new to you, you’d lose your mind. Baby steps.
It seems to me that they do know how voting works in America: If you keep voting for pro-genocide candidates, you keep getting genocide. Maybe one of the two major parties should try running an anti-genocide candidate.
Nazi supporter.
Right. We had 15 months of weaponizing and covering for Israel’s ethnic cleansing during Biden’s term, but its the guy who criticizes him and his replacement that’s the “Nazi supporter.” Your comments are indistinguishable from a MAGA sycophant and you can’t even see it.
One of the lessons of the crimes of the Nazis is that the road to Hell is paved with The Greater Good. The Nazis themselves believed that all their crimes were necessary for the betterment of society. They thought though their actions were regrettable, it was the only choice they really had. Killing millions was the lesser of two evils.
You have more in common with the Nazis than you would like to believe. There’s very little you cannot justify when you have no red lines and you’ll always support the lesser evil. The Nazis themselves thought they were supporting the lesser evil.
who? folks who voted for trump or harris? yeah they are.
Lol everyone but you and a few thousand people are nazis
Speaking as a leftist who swallowed my pride and voted for a fascist genocide supporter because for all her useless platitudes Harris was still a better option and I’m willing to admit that; go fuck yourself.
You want to know why people didn’t get behind Harris? It’s because her boss ran on rolling back the damage Trump 1.0 had done and then continued operating concentration camps on the southern border. It’s because time and time again even the radical Democrats have proven themselves to be feckless, incompetent, hand-wringing cowards who can’t be trusted to do the job they were elected for until it’s time to “compromise with Republicans” by inflating the defense budget and passing tax cuts for the wealthy. Harris would have seen her approval numbers falter and start rounding up brown folks no different from Trump, the difference being she’d have kept her mouth shut about it and so would the media until six weeks before midterms. Her platform was a gun and a nightstick with a BLM sticker tacked onto it, no different from Biden or Obama.
Biden put ZERO pressure on Israel to reign in their genocide in Gaza and Harris would have done no differently source the United States has effectively unlimited leverage in this conflict and they refuse to use it no matter which side is in office. I voted for those lying crooks despite knowing that, but I don’t blame a goddamn person for whom that was a deal breaker, it should be.
You know how Harris would have been different, she’d have been competent. She wouldn’t have tanked the economy with these ridiculous tarrifs, cozied us up to Russia, threatened and alienated our closest allies and trading partners or surged DHS’s budget to unthinkable levels, but the next Republican in office sure would have. The courts are packed, the Dems will always have a defector (just like mean old Joe Manchin), there will always be a convenient excuse why they’re so feckless and ineffectual and all electing Harris would have done is delay the inevitable by another four years. Acting like the US’ slide into authoritarianism which has been ongoing since the Wilson administration is anything new or aberrant to our current era is either wishful thinking or complete brainless ignorance of history. Trump isn’t the problem, Trump voters aren’t even the problem, this is the result of deep rooted contradictions in the very foundation of the Republic bearing their poison fruit.
All is not lost, others are getting organized, demonstrating, protesting, taking action. The only thing that gets us out of this is solidarity and mutual support but by all means, sit on your ass and continue to point fingers at others you’d seek to blame, because they were wrong and that’s all that matters right?
Fucking shitheel
OK. Good for you. Doesn’t change the fact that your counterparts didn’t.
BTW, how’s your view of DC? Looks pretty occupied nto me.
Edit: Solidarity? Haha that’s rich. Leftists stayed home. 42% of Hispanics voted for their deportation. Over 50% of white women voted to become broodmares. A sizable amount of Muslims and LGBTQ voted for their own deportation and rights be rescinded.
The only group that actually stayed the course was Black Women.
So you can take that Solidarity talk and shove it right up your ass.
Amazing how you’ll hold every group accountable except the group most responsible for electing Trump: straight white men.
Why bother? They are fucking lost causes and, frankly, too stupid to bother convincing (the Joe Rogans, Kevin Sorbos, Adam Corrollas, Joel Olsteins and the likes). Yes, most white men are worthless imbeciles who aren’t worth counting on for cleaning shit in a toilet, let alone accountability.
I’ll be honest. When I get service done in my home, if it’s a white male and especially a young white male, I cringe and expect shitty work and shortcuts.
I blame everyone else because I expected better of everyone else. I don’t expect anything of these white maga male shit stains as they have been a fucking nuscience towards progress since the Reconstruction failed.
So let me ask you something then, if it’s every group you’ve mentioned at fault for voting wrong or being insufficiently engaged what in the actual fuck are you hoping to accomplish by assigning blame beyond stoking your own ego?
It sounds to me like the leftist bogeyman you’re so eager to pin all this on didn’t have nearly the impact you claimed elsewhere in the thread, or is this still their fault in an election where the Republicans managed to take the popular vote?
“Leftists stayed home”, so are protest voters the reason Harris lost or is it the fact she was a hypocritical liar with a decades long career propping up the prison industrial complex? She goes on Charlemagne Tha God’s podcast laughing and joking that she never inhaled meanwhile nearly two thousand people were imprisoned on her orders for marijuana related offenses.
“Though she defended marijuana’s use for medicinal purposes as district attorney, her prosecutors in San Francisco convicted more than 1,900 people on cannabis-related offenses.”
I’m not sure how you’re able to type with your head rammed so far up your own ass but if you manage to get some fresh air you should realize that no amount of celebrities at the DNC is going to make up for the liberal establishment’s failures on every single issue that matters. By the way, why the actual fuck didn’t Obama push for codification of Roe? Why the hell did the entire blue team roll over for McConnell and allow the Republicans to stall Merrick Garland’s supreme court nomination? Speaking of Garland why didn’t that spineless coward prosecute Trump when he had the chance? Because they’re complicit, we’re already seeing the presumptive nominee sprint to the right on every single issue that matters to progressives, if our vote actually made a difference the Democrats would actually do something to earn it but we make such a convenient scapegoat when they lose don’t we?
You’re a rube
TLDR;
Virtue signal all you want but it won’t change the fact that ANY OPTION was more stable than Trump and when American needed people like you, you failed.
Bringing better candidates only works when the system works and this system was teetering on the brink of collapse that we didn’t have time to do “purity tests” that the left does constantly for its candidates.
But I’m sure the LGBTQ community appreciates your concern for Gaza. ;)
Edit: Fun fact, Medicaid funding is primarily what Foster kids use for services. It would be a shame if that was slashed by a trillion.
But I will concede this, if the left is so adamant about being right, then they’d better fucking show up for Mamdani in New York considering Adams and Cuomo are striking unholy alliances with Trump.
Liberals will be voting for him. Let’s hope the left is more than just rhetoric at this point.
Edit 2: Many of us groaned when she was even made VP considering her persecution of Black Men for minor weed charges. But she’s still a better option than Cheetolini or Couch Fucker.
Reminder that she was made VP as a reward for helping a dementia riddled corpse ratfuck an actually progressive candidate out of the primary.
How’s that Super Delegate system treating you?
“when American needed people like you, you failed.”
Shove your condescension up your hypocritical ass you self-righteous blowhard. You’ve no idea what I did or didn’t do to try and avert this fucking crisis and if you think for a moment that “people like me” weren’t and aren’t fighting for our goddamn lives and those of our communities you’re so ignorant it’s galling. Fuck you
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That wasn’t leftists, that was just narcissists enjoying the smell of their own feces.
you should really read up on who voted for rfk jr and jill stein it was all conservatives,.
You know who’s to blame for Trump? Trump voters.
What we’re seeing here is multiple layers of cowardice. Too cowardly to vote for what you actually believe in, and then too cowardly to go engage with actual Trump voters, so instead you hang around here trying to bully progressives into toeing the party line of a party that doesn’t represent them.
Incidentally,
But whatever helps you sleep at night.
I’ve started noticing a pattern with these “don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos” posts, where they almost always finish with a stock guilt-trip phrase like this, or “I hope you’re happy” or similar, and not just on Lemmy. And I don’t mean every now and then, I mean like, I see these posts formatted the same way regularly, often in threads that are barely relevant to it. Basically, I’m pretty sure that there’s a bot farm posting these messages on behalf of someone trying to maintain the two-party system.
Exactly. At this point, anyone still bitching about anti-genocide voters in the 2024 election should be assumed to be a conservative or Russian bot.
No people are just pissed at third party frauds who helped bury the country. But go ahead with your fake purity
Damn, even when you control all elections with gerrymandering and anti-third-party laws, you still blame third parties.
Meanwhile, here in the USA elections and law say it’s all due to our major parties. I guess you just can’t face reality, that’s sad.
Maybe people should be mad at the politicans who gave up fighting for their voters, and handed the victory to Trump
Maybe more than one fact can exist. Thanks for trump though
But go ahead with your fake purity
See? They’re virtually identical the way they all end with the same collection of snide jabs, even when it’s (ostensibly) a different poster. They do it again later this thread. It’s so stark once you notice it, because you don’t see this pattern with any other political topic.
Yes I’m a bot for speaking the truth and your brainless society murder is original thought. And soooo morally pure
PSML. STILL following the same pattern three (actually four) times in a row, in a discussion about how all these two-party advocates keep ending all their posts with the exact same set of short one-liner jabs.
You couldn’t have given yourself away more if you’d written a poem about presidents visiting the beach.
Do you realize how small a percentage this actually is?
Only 33% of the pop lives in swing states, only about half of those are Democrats, only about 2% are defectors. You are bitching about 1/3 of 1% of the pop.
They down vote because they can’t defend their alliance with the right. Can’t tell them apart from the right most days. Always the same vibes.
Pretty much.
I dunno a single leftist irl who didn’t vote for Kamala
I know quite a few.
I voted for Kamala. Do I get to criticize the republican nazis and democrat asskissers and pushover cosplaying liberals letting all this happen? Or is this the part where you tell me that any criticism of Democrats is evil and wrong and I need to commit to supporting Gavin Newsom three years in advance or I’m exactly as bad as MAGA?
As it turned out, the people who withheld their vote for Kamala over the genocide didn’t actually matter in the election. Had every one of them voted for Kamala, I’m not aware of a single state that would’ve flipped. Not even Michigan
It pisses off both sides of the rift, but the genocide didn’t matter in terms of the election. Those not voting for Kamala over Gaza don’t get any credit/blame for Trump winning.
On the other hand, those who withheld their vote and are hoping the consequences of the election are going to teach the DNC or anyone a lesson are going to be sorely disappointed. No matter how passionate individuals are about the issue, the electorate gave it a collective shrug to absolutely no one’s surprise. Nothing is going to change about our Israel policy as a result of Trump’s victory.
Some day, our acceptance of the genocide is going to be seen as just as shameful as Clinton’s opposition to gay marriage and support of DA/DT. But not today. Fighting about it is just arguing with each other over scraps while the real enemy runs the kitchen.
So, I was alive when DA/DT went into effect, not sure how many people here were. The interesting thing is that as much as it was a cruel and unnecessary policy and in hindsight is completely indefensible, it actually was a step forward for gay rights. Before that the policy was you absolutely would be asked, and if you didn’t tell, you could be charged with a crime. People lost their pensions and got discharged with no benefits just for being gay. Moreover, I honestly don’t think it would have been possible at the time to get a more sensible policy through, because all the usual suspects were absolutely losing their minds about the baby step that it was.
I’m not a Bill Clinton apologist, but I kind of think he deserves a pass on that one. It’s really hard to explain how quickly the ground shifted on that issue from the 90s to the 2010s. Clinton kind of stuck his neck out for progress, as imperfect as it was.
I agree with you. Maybe that came across as anti-Clinton. In my defense, I’ve always detested the Clintons and have little interest in spending words making him look better.
I do appreciate you pointing that out. It’s a valuable lens to look back with. Still, from our perspective today, shameful, even if necessary.
Pushover liberals? Nah, you meant to say pushover democrats.
Because we have allowed impotent pacifist dipshits control the narrative for the Left too long, is why we are here.
democrats arnt condoning this, its all conservatives.
Some Democratic politicians flirt with the idea because they think it will help their chances to become president, like Newsom: https://calmatters.org/politics/2025/03/newsom-transgender-athletes/
This is fully sexual assault
But it is for their own good. Without measures like this, they might end up in bathrooms with perv… hey wait a minute. 💡
The craziest part to me is as a parent I’ve gone in the opposite gendered bathroom so many times because places won’t put changing tables in the mens rooms. I’ve never had anyone bat an eye at it either
Soooo… A guy with a gun in front of every toilet
Good, just what every girl wants to hear! Makes them feel quite safe.
It looks we’re one step away from someone having to physically “verify” someone’s gender.
“I only inserted my fingers into their vagina to make sure that it was real.”
“I touched their penis to confirm that it was indeed real.”
… and I feared for my life from the genitalia touchers, so I started blasting.
With a gun, right?
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Alt text - A comic of an androgynous person being asked “Hey are you MALE or FEMALE”. The person’s response is “Yes.” A follow up question being asked “Ok but which do you prefer”. Response “Cats” (with a little heart). Another follow up question is being asked “No I mean what’s in your pants?!!” The person raises their shirt to show a pistol underneath the waist band of their pants with their response “A gun”.
can we switch to gender neutral bathrooms please?
In a society where women are often harassed, many women use bathrooms to escape men, even if just for a few moments of peace.
There was a place in Japan I went to that had 2 bathrooms: one gender neutral and one women’s room. I don’t know if that solves everyone’s problems (or anyone’s) but I thought it was interesting.
If you’re being harassed, I feel like going is a closed space like a bathroom is probably the worst idea possible
The problem is, with women like this server around, you can still get harassed in the bathroom even with no men present. So I’m not sure it has much value as a refuge at this point.
My wife has shared so many crazy stories of shit going down in women’s restrooms. Like, men just do their business and get out. It’s one of the few things you could argue isn’t toxic about masculinity
Everywhere needs at least one single occupancy gender neutral restroom.
But saying that, I’ve been harassed while trying to use a porta potty. Can’t win for losing.
But can you prove your gender is neutral? 🧐
No, my gender is hostile.
Then you need to use the one with a picture of a goose on the door
All I know is that my genitals say “maybe”
What makes genitals go neutral?
Lust for gold? Power?
Two magic 8 balls and one of those tubes that goes wuuueaugh when inverted
It’s when your crotch is flat, obviously, like a playmobil
If you’re completely flat then there’s your proof
You can show them your flat pics
Alternative version: you show them your intersex official member card™️
Yes
Sue that restaurant into the ground. Teach them a lesson.
It was never about women or safety. It was always about control, fear, and punishment.
Cowardly attacks on the most vulnerable for criminally-immoral political advantage. Leave our neighbors alone!
Sorry what was? Bathrooms? Are about punishment?
The Government trying to prevent trans people from using the “wrong” bathroom.
They claimed it was to protect women, but really it just hurts trans people and women by allowing strangers to demand women prove their gender.
I think that’s a fairly modern issue. I don’t think the idea of having separate restrooms for genders was ever meant to be about punishment when restrooms came about. I’d be interested to see evidence about this punishment theory though if there is any.
Bathroom access has long been used to punish undesirable groups and to keep them from public life. Women who chose to work outside the home were punished in the 19th century by not having access to restrooms. People of color were punished in the 20th century for daring to exist in society by being denied restroom access at white establishments. And now people are trying to punish trans and gender non-conforming people by denying them restroom access.
In case you haven’t connected the dots, the obsession over restrooms isn’t actually about restrooms. If you can restrict the ability of undesirables to access public restrooms, you can effectively bar them from public life. It’s a way of criminalizing innocent people without actually having to arrest or throw them in prison.
And yes, these laws do effectively ban trans people from any bathroom. I’m a trans person myself, but you wouldn’t know unless I told you. I would be violating the law if I used the women’s restroom in Florida. But if I went into the men’s, I would have people throwing me out, telling me I’m in the wrong bathroom. Hell, I could be arrested for trying to use the men’s room in Florida, the very bathroom the law requires me to use. There’s no easy way for me to even prove that I am trans. My legal documents have all been documented, and I went far enough in transition I couldn’t even prove my trans status by dropping my pants. And yet, the law in Florida requires me to use the men’s restroom. So if I use a restroom in Florida, I either have to violate the law and risk arrest if somehow someone were to figure it out and report me. Or I could follow the law and still face harassment, assault, and possible arrest.
Truthfully, to me, the law in Florida has done exactly what it was intended to do. I simply won’t set foot in the state of Florida, or any other state with a bathroom ban. The government of Florida has effectively barred me, an American citizen, from the right to visit the state. And all I did to deserve this banishment was be born trans.
