The game is fundamentally different now in a worse way. We’re looking at a future of neo feudal politicians once this fascist flame burns through the nation. The end of the US as a unified whole is a genuine possibility. Feudalists gaining control and creating a hellish dystopia with the power of the empire is the alternative. Post Trump America will be never be as successful a liberal democracy as 2024 America was, and 2024 America was absolutely bottom of the barrel.

America needs to burn and probably will, but that will more likely to be awful than not. It will be a monumental lift to bring about a positive future.

I’m sure billionaires will be funding Democrats hard, which is why we need to treat the party like neo-feudalists from now on. No matter what they say, they cannot be trusted to do anything but further raid the working class. They’re more of a long term enemy than Trump, and we cannot give them an easy time. They will never be saviors, only new masters.

Again, are you respecting someone’s identity? I don’t care what you think you’re doing; if you aren’t recognizing a person as the person they are, then the conclusion is that you’re mistreating someone. The world isn’t a place where your self perceptions overwrite the person you actually are.

There are plenty of respectful debates about trans issues, and tolerance of people genuinely not understanding queer topics. What cannot be debated respectfully is whatever or not to respect a person"s identity. No amount of polite language can make such a conversation respectful, as you’re refusing to do the bare minimum required to speak to that person as an equal.

Creating a tolerant space requires not tolerating intolerance. This is not an authoritarian insight, but one centered on maximizing the freedom of everyone. If you demand a space where you can debate a basic fact about myself, then that is not a space in which I am free.

They want to maintain the independent power of the courts, but none can have power except Trump.

Most people make fun of France because of dumb reasons like that. I make fun of France for their evil imperialism that gets too often overlooked in America.

But in all seriousness, the only thing we could do to stop this current mess is behead the king, and the US military is more than capable of destroying any large scale effort. I think targeting nobility could be a decent alternative, but I’m physically incapable personally.

They’re making it unlivable for themselves, but instead of fixing the problem, they’re just making things as bad as possible for the scapegoats.

You are not having this conversation in good faith. You’re taking a very closed-minded perspective to someone saying “killing thousands of children is bad” AND “not enough was even done to save the hostages.” I’ve met people like you in real life, and I suspect the pain of admitting that you’re even slightly in the wrong about a country you value must really hurt, but it does not make genocide apologia ok. I’ve accepted my own country sucks, so you can make peace with a place like Israel too.

Also, if “discussion” like this is what this comm tolerates, I sure as hell don’t want to be a part of the conversations here.

Not really. Plenty of upper class conservatives who read both quite well and not well enough.

It is, but the bubble mustn’t burst or the grifters will stop making money selling “the end of skilled labor” to braindead capitalists.

Doesn’t matter how goofy they are; they have the stick, so their word is law. No use laughing at their stupidity when countless people will die as a result. This is the new normal for America, and things will not get better until Trump is long dead.

Being a leftist and calling for leftist policy probably

Not enough drugs to redeem his incredible amounts of evil and cringe

Exactly; it was always a lie that couldn’t be taken seriously

Joe didn’t commit genocide, but he did provide the ability and protection for the genociders, which is honestly worse in some ways. America wasn’t a proper democracy; mostly a liberal empire where people have no say beyond if they get burnt, or thrown into hell.

The local level was where we could’ve built democracy this entire time, but building up that way for the long game is difficult and wouldn’t have delivered the material changes very quickly. The executive was ensured it would become a dictatorship because the legislature was so incapable of doing basic maintenance thanks to the ever increasing push by the right to achieve anarcho-capitalism at the cost of the very empire that gave liberalism its power.

The capitalists were a bunch of gremlins in an imperial machine who didn’t know how good they had it. Some get to do what they want now, but they’re losing more power than they realize, as now America won’t be the big bad empire it was when they started. Many have assumed it’s capitalism that’s the monolithic evil of history, but if you really look at the realities of the past, if you really look at the realities of America and the USSR, you’ll realize that capitalism was always but a minor force. Empires are the greatest evil in human history, not that Capitalism is better, but it just can’t reach the same level.

Viable!?! Given Biden only really won because of Covid, I think Bernie would’ve actually had a shot in the general, especially in energizing the base and working class. Warren could’ve also stood a better chance, even if she might not have done as great of a job in office.

Biden was the worst choice, I thought Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and especially Harris in 2020 were far better, but the capitalist elites wanted a weak old man, so we got Biden, dooming us for 2024 because there was no way he’d be selfless enough to step aside. He might’ve said he’d be one term, but he was lying and that’s why no one took him seriously.

Voters needed more than that because it’s so hard to believe that the death of the American was a vote away. They couldn’t comprehend the existential horrors of fascism when the suffering of liberalism was already untenable. Things were way worse than most wanted to admit, and only now that things are unprecedented will they feel a harsher plunge into the nightmare future we were already destined for.

The world is gonna be unstable compared to the past 80 years for quite a while, and empires will once again trump capitalism as the greatest evil the world has to offer. We might see nuclear war, mass famine, disasters with no organized relief. We will see climate catastrophe, horrendous pollution, regular violence, and an end of safety for everyone on earth. Not even the ultra rich will be safe, as their wealth is meaningless without a state. Protecting it yourself with violence is a far worse deal for your own safety, as now you’re competing with other feudal lords as well. No real winning anymore.

He never promised. We lost when he won the 2020 primary

The real problem was the Democratic party making tactically poor move after tactically poor move. They were too obsessed with imperial support of Israel to do the right thing for US interests and the voters. They were too “anti-communist” to consider not banning TikTok and alienating younger voters. They were willing to cede the narrative to the right constantly. They refused to give the left any progressive policy goals to chew on despite us yelling about how much all of this would fuck with turnout.

For the past 2 years, they thought corporate ads and ultraconservative libs would win the election, when that wasn’t what helped them in the midterms, hasn’t been the playbook in decades, and was just what let them hang out with their “good ole Republican friends” who they really wish they could ally with like in the 90s. It was a load of interpersonal bullshit, purposefully engineered by the ruling class to ensure the Democratic leadership would never sacrifice capitalism for liberal democracy’s sake.

I’m tired and disgusted of this “blame the left” narrative, especially since plenty of liberals could tell that this was the Democrat’s biggest issue for quite a while. They never did anything to address it because the fix wasn’t easy. They went with the easy solution and expected voters to pick up the slack. That’s not how electoral politics works; Lazy, irresponsible bastards