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  • Likely a prefrontal cortex, the administrative center of the brain and generally host to human consciousness. As well as a dedicated memory system with learning plasticity.

    Humans have systems that mirror llms but llms are missing a few key components to be precise replicas of human brains, mostly because it’s computationally expensive to consider and the goal is different.

    Some specific things the brain has that llms don’t directly account for are different neurochemicals (favoring a single floating value per neuron), synaptogenesis, neurogenesis, synapse fire travel duration and myelin, neural pruning, potassium and sodium channels, downstream effects, etc. We use math and gradient descent to somewhat mirror the brain’s hebbian learning but do not perform precisely the same operations using the same systems.

    In my opinion having a dedicated module for consciousness would bridge the gap, possibly while accounting for some of the missing characteristics. Consciousness is not an indescribable mystery, we have performed tons of experiments and received a whole lot of information on the topic.

    As it stands llms are largely reasonable approximations of the language center of the brain but little more. It may honestly not take much to get what we consider consciousness humming in a system that includes an llm as a component.


  • How do you think god comes into the equation? What do you think about split brain syndrome in which people demonstrate having multiple consciousnesses? If consciousness is based on a metaphysical property why can it be altered with chemicals and drugs? What do you think happens during a lobotomy?

    I get that evidence based thinking is generally not compatible with religious postulates, but just throwing up your hands and saying consciousness comes from the gods is an incredibly weak position to hold.












  • I think that’s fair, superstition is directly opposed to evidence based reasoning. Not every superstitious person is a lost cause though. Most belief comes from indoctrination, and with time and critical thinking a lot of people can and do escape.

    I think it’s similar to racism, people who do racist things can sometimes change when introduced to people of color, or to the subject of their bigotry. In the same way the victims of racism aren’t morally obligated to “fix” nor trust the people who perform racist acts, victims of the superstitious are not obliged to trust them.

    The optimist in me hopes we can just help these people heal from their mental issues, but the realist realizes that in many cases it’s hopeless.


  • I completely agree prayer is utterly meaningless at best and actually harmful at worst. When somebody prays for an outcome they are getting the benefits of doing something without affecting any change, it’s like asking your imaginary older brother to take care of the bullies at school. “Who wee that job is done, I did my part by asking big bro for help”

    That said, I think we ought to tone down the anti-prayer rhetoric because it can push some people who are actually waking up to the issues caused by recent political events away. While centrism in general is a bad political play for politicians, less derisive language among us common people could be good. Let some of the mindless religious fanatics do their praying that trump won’t hurt them, but when he does we should at least try to be sympathetic and let them change their mind.

    We often get caught up in the schadenfreude of the self inflicted political wounds and forget these are people who will suffer needlessly.





  • Ethically, depending on the religion, it is absolutely mandatory for parents to teach their children their religious views.

    For example, let’s make up a cult. “Pireneists” are devout religious cultists that genuinely believe in their god, Kundo. Kundo’s holy book says that any who partake in the evil plant, the peanut, have been led astray by evil and will suffer for all eternity in the dark chasm of the lost.

    For parents who legitimately believe this it would be completely unethical for them to let their children eat peanuts, their mental state has everything to do with their ethical mandates. The only ethical thing to do is to teach their children about their beliefs in such a way that the children will follow the same beliefs for their whole life. Indoctrination is indeed within the bounds of ethics.

    To you it may seem silly. In fact to most of us this is peak idiocy and if the leaders of the pireneists have been known to take money from people to pay for their lavish lifestyles you could say that the organization itself is evil. However the mental state and beliefs of the parents override the fundamental veracity of the claims of the cult/religion. True or not, the parents believe and their inaction would be unethical.