The Trump administration is preparing to cancel a large swath of federal funding for California, an effort that could begin as soon as Friday, according to multiple sources.
Agencies are being told to start identifying grants the administration can withhold from California. Sources said the administration is specifically considering a full termination of federal grant funding for the University of California and California State University systems.
Singling out one state for massive cuts would be an unusual move, but Donald Trump has long made Democratic-led California a target.
Aren’t there a fuckload of Republicans in wine country?
I doubt they’ll be happy about that
They’ll like whatever they’re told to like.
Fucking RINOs, amirite?
There’s repugnigans everywhere in California. There’s just more Democrats.
I wouldn’t say there are more Republicans in wine country than any other agricultural region in the state. Probably slightly fewer.
You misspelled “Republikkklans”
if state funding is being canceled, that state should leave the union. why be apart of the united states government if trump is dismantling and destroying the united states government.
The American thing to do is fight for America.
The people who want California to just leave are the ones who want to dismantle the country.
I’m Californian. The federal government, for my entire life, has just take and taken and taken from me. I have received nothing in return. I don’t need your shitty union of thugs and mouth breathers, and I don’t need your bullshit military colonizing waste of time and money.
Well you probably don’t realize the things the federal government does give cali. Interstate highways are one. Coast guard. Bridges. And clearly funding to the universities. Now the balance is lopsided, in that cali gives more back. But that doesn’t mean cali would have given you those same things.
That said… determining if CA would be better with our without the feds is a complicated question. For one, they would probably need to fund thier own military, as they would be a ripe target given thier economic prosperity.We pay more into those federal programs than they spend back on us. If we just kept the taxes locally, while maintaining funding for all those programs, we would come out ahead by a factor of nearly 2:1.
As for military spending, there is a lot of savings to be had by not fighting endless bullshit Christian jihads.
So you missed my point. Many of those things that the feds pay for just wouldn’t happen if the state was paying. Politics is tricky like that.
Why wouldn’t they?
The more local the governing body, the more they have to pacify the not in my backyard people. The federal government can generally ignore those people and just make things that need to happen, happen.
It’s not a matter of the state taking over things, the federal government is (hypothetically) stopping those funds regardless of what they do, so why wouldn’t they fund it themselves because all those things you mentioned still need to happen.
See my comment to the other response about the not in my backyard crowd.
Isn’t the point of this post that soon the state isn’t going to be paying anyway?
Correct. But what you may have implied and got wrong is that this is somehow a bad idea. America is long overdue for a federal collapse. This cultural infighting is unsustainable.
As a new Yorker I am sick of having my tax dollars go to subsidize hicks in the deep south and Midwest that ultimately vote against my rights. I am more than happy to see the bridges that unite us burn because the concept of “unity” in a melting pot is a ticking time bomb, as it always has been.
I don’t want what’s best for America. I want what’s best for California. It’s in a bad relationship and is always the provider and the victim.
Without liberty and justice for all, there can BE no one nation indivisible.
Dude, this all blue states. We always help the poorly uneducated… and always get fucked on. Those leaders don’t even say thank you, or even wear a suit.
I think it maybe time to change the dynamic of the USA. Maybe instead of 2 levels, maybe three. Federal, regional, and state. Where the federal hands over some powers to the regional government. I am not sure how that could happen, but it might be a good direction.
I personally think that there should be three presidents, each overseeing a major chunk of America - West, Center, and East. This would help divide up the power of the executive branch, as the Judicial and Congressional branches would remain a global aspect of the nation. Unitary executive theory would be dead, since there can be no unitary, IMO.
Plus, we can have three separate elections - someone who ran to be elected in Centre America can’t run for the other two regions. This would allow us to have a lot more candidates, all of them quite focused on what they offer the region they decided to run for. Right now, a president has to appeal to ALL of America, which means not many people will actually be happy.
The people who want California to just leave are the ones who want to dismantle the country.
This Canadian is fine with it at this point. Fuck the USA. We’ve been your friend forever and you shit on us.
Burn baby burn.
I wouldn’t really want to be sharing the largest land border in the world with the size of tempest brewing up in the US right now, should it ever boil over. Seems like that might be a bit of a nightmare to keep contained.
The strategy isn’t to keep it contained.
… Wait so you want the war spilling over into canada? Why?
I hope this convinces Californians to sign the CalExit petition, so that California can start researching the option to secede. The way things are looking, the dissolution of the union seems likely. It would be better if California and the other blue states got prepared for that.
Have a think about how Brexit went and get back to me.
How are the situations similar? Because of the name?
Leaving your nearest trading partner doesn’t seem like a good thing.
California’s nearest trading partner is China.
But is that organised through a USA trade deal or not?
With the current Trump tariffs the existing US trade deal is a dysfunction at best.
Despite it. Our governor actually shows up to trade negotiations and sticks to the agreed terms.
Considering that Trump has killed all sorts of diplomatic relationships, I think it would be better for California and the other blue states to form their own arrangements with other powers, alongside internal ones.
Trump killed NOAA. The weather service that helped all of the states to prepare their crops and disaster management, is now torn to pieces. Our schools are being barred from having students from abroad, which weakens America’s abilities to have the best and brightest to join our nation. Tariffs are destroying our supply chains. The courts have become legitimized, used to entrap people who dared to believe in the justice of law. The wall of flesh in Panama is failing.
…I had plenty of think, thank you very much.
Our enemies have burrowed inside our flesh. If we don’t remove them, we are truly screwed.
To be fair I did say Trump was Americas brexit. So I take it back, you’re right. This is scary times for the USA, and the rest of the world will suffer too.
Honestly, it is a situation that has no clear answer. It is very frustrating!
It has no near term answer. Will there be free elections? Will the constitution be restored? Will law and order mean something again? Will sanity be restored?
If there’s any hope left for my fellow Americans, it’s just another year and a half before the nazis and sycophants get voted out. Then two years of non-functioning infighting …. I can dream that sanity happens. Eventually everyone of these thugs acting above the law should be brought to justice. Every one of those cops and ice agents: you know what constitutional rights are, including habeas corpus; you are responsible for obeying illegal orders
More like Indyref.
Not sure what that is? Scotland leaving the union?
Thanks. Just wasn’t sure.
It makes me laugh that the same Brexit morons are against that.
Indyref was broadly supported by the left but brexit was a right wing project. And indyref was pro-EU, which was reflected a few years later when the same voters who wanted to leave UK voted remain in EU.
The concept of leaving a union of nations has no inherent other political implications.
For me it all comes down to whether the Scots can get themselves in to the EU or not. Casting yourself adrift, Brexit style, is foolish.
Have a think how brake up of Yugoslavia went for Slovenia (the richest YU republic).
That’s ok, we can broker trade deals with Appalachistan for cheap third world labor. They get the hellhole they seem to want and we have a nearby banana republic to exploit. Win-win
Next: California will not pay Federal taxes?
I hope California secedes, for California’s sake
Is California secession still a thing?
I’m pretty sure Texas is the only “legal” state allowed to secede, but I’m not a lawyer and my info may be woefully out of date
No state is allowed to. Read the 14th amendment.
And there is an emoluments clause. And dozens of others already violated.
That’s irrelevant to whether or not a state has an established legal right to do a thing.
The colonies weren’t “allowed” to leave England either, yet here we are.
Would it cause a civil war? Yea. Would California win? Of course not.
I don’t think it would be at least that simple… Would it be bloody and awful most likely but California holds a lot of military how many would stay loyal is dependent but I could also see some other world power interfering maybe… For better trade or special treatment.
No, Texas (nor any other state) can not secede from the Union.
https://www.sll.texas.gov/faqs/can-texas-secede
Can Texas secede? I heard it is one of the only states that can secede from the United States.
It is a common misunderstanding that Texas has the right to leave the United States. The Texas State Library and Archives Commission (TSLAC) addresses this on their page about Texas’s annexation:
It is said of Texas (and, occasionally, Vermont) that it received a letter or document of permission to withdraw from the Federal Union if it so chose. […] In fact, Texas received no special terms in its admission to the Union. Once Texas had agreed to join the Union, she never had the legal option of leaving, either before or after the Civil War.
I stand corrected
Texas can split itself up into 5 states, but not secede.
There’s an ongoing political effort to get it on the ballot called “CalExit”
Sounds like is sure could be. Also sounds like the basis for a court case.
California should confiscate Trump National golf course.
Finally a good use of eminent domain
Turn it into a homeless shelter.
And spend 30 years building high speed rail through it, just to flex.
Wind turbines
And another big ass canal, for good measure.
secession is a necessity.
Raging war on the greatest state within the country that he rules. What a fucking sack of shit.
So Americans need to switch it off and on again. Gather up new founding fathers and mothers, write up a new constitution and declaration of independence - write up documents for a new federation between states…
Create a back up United States. Declare the old one null and void. Stop interacting with the old one. Start interacting with the new one.
Call all this something benign sounding. Try not to go to war about it. But yeah, you all need to switch this shit off and on again.
I agree. Time for a good old constitutional convention.
Except that’s exactly what the Heritage Foundation has been wanting for decades so they can turn the US into an official Christofascist nation.
I can’t wait to be the United Coca-Cola States of Unilever America.
Yup, by excluding the south east (Texas to Florida) they could easily reboot it in a much more progressive manner.
Texas and Florida? You mean North Mexico and Cuba Libre?
Woah woah woah. Texas seceded from Mexico to preserve slavery until they joined the US so they could secede to preserve slavery. And a cuba libre is delicious, not nearly as watered down (underwater) as Florida is.
California should defederate
What Tsar Vlad wants to see.
Krasnov and his Kremlin bosses always wanted to turn California into another fucking red run oblast shithole like Arkansas.
Viva Cascadia.
So pandering to Trump didn’t help Newsom amazing how that works
