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The speech in question https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKSH7wJiqYK/
Wow, that’s a lot of hatred against a country and a nation. “Genoside” claims, several times. Still no mentions of how this yet another war started on the 7th of October. 🤦
What happened the 5th of October, do you even know?
No one is upset that Israel wanted to do something about being attacked, but what’s happening is so wildly disproportionate. If hamas did that in any other country and that country decided to go full scorched earth in retaliation no one would support that yet somehow a single attack justifies what’s going on now?? If someone eggs your house do you hunt them down, burn down their house, kill them then do the same to all their relatives?? No obvious that’s insane and that’s essentially what’s happening here, the attack was wrong but two wrongs do not make a right and the force of the response is so far above uncalled for
"If someone eggs your house"
This is NOT what happened, you must be trolling or delusional.
So… What are your suggestions actions that are not disproportionate?! I have none, which would be adequate against the intentional atrocities by hamas and other paramilitaries.
“You showed the world that MIT wants a free Palestine”.
“You called for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza, and you stood in solidarity with the pro-Palestine activists on campus. You faced threats, intimidation, and suppression coming from all directions, especially your own university officials, but you prevailed because the MIT community that I know would never tolerate a genocide."
“Right now, while we prepare to graduate and move forward with our lives, there are no universities left in Gaza…We are watching Israel try to wipe Palestine off the face of the earth, and it is a shame that MIT is a part of it.”
“This means that Israel’s assault on the Palestinian people is not only aided and abetted by our country, but our school. As scientists, engineers, academics, and leaders, we have a commitment to support life, support aid efforts, and call for an arms embargo, and keep demanding, now as alumni, that MIT cuts the ties,"
make a list of all these fascists. people must not forget those who stood firmly on the side of genocide.
make a list of all these fascists.
Is that your next suggestion, omg: “Let them wear special distinguishing marks on their clothes too. Like, some kind of a star sign”?!
/S
That’s seriously creepy, dude.
fucking yes. if you allow fascists and collaborators to just dust off their hands and pretend nothing happened once the regime comes down, you’re just setting the timer back until the next fascist regime.
they’re collaborating with the regime now, and once it’s gone, they will all have always opposed it.
no. you have to remember all of them. no quarter for fascists. no excuse for collaborators.
Couldn’t have been worse than the cringefest speech Hank Green gave that’s for sure
First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you, <-- you are here
then you win.
Great that she spoke out but… Honey, where the fuck did you think you got accepted four years ago? MIT loves war.
edit: horny beavers hot for big missiles!
Welcome to the united snake land of the thiefs, home of the slaves
MIT? !!! WHAT THE FUCK?
AIPAC pressure.
DARPA money is a hell of a drug?
I have no idea if this is a real thing or not.
If there’s one thing I know: any string of random words is likely a project studied or funded by DARPA.
MIT team receives $10.4 million biomanufacturing grant from DARPA With the grant, MIT’s Biomanufacturing Research Program aims to develop new technologies that can rapidly manufacture biologic drugs on the battlefield.
https://news.mit.edu/2013/biomanufacturing-research-program-grant-0918
So, yeah, DARPA money for drugs is a drug for MIT.
Old article. But… There’s lots out there.
I’m sure a lot of questions would be answered by checking the universities donations.
Research needs money for happening. You need to pay researchers, structures, various staff. Even more so a fancy structure as MIT
Israel (and American Zionists) have the power to cancel a sizeable amount of research contracts with MIT. (AIPAC shows how well organised they are, originally for defence from antisemitism, now for defence from… Palestine? I guess? 🤷♂️ )
Then for MIT (that is a corporation like another) comes to damage control. On one hand PR, on the other money.
MIT took the money, Stanford (in the case of DEI) took the PR.
I am still 100% sure neither of the two can give a damn of Palestinians, Israel or DEI. It’s just MBA stuff 🤷♂️
(I have my opinions on the situation in Palestine but I don’t want this post to be about that)
That wasn’t already a commencement speech?
“We encourage students inquiry and critical thinking” “no not like that!”
Calling other people (all the more, a nation as a whole) names - is not critical thinking.
Presenting biased rhethorics (all the more, not in a neutral manner, but emotionally loaded claims) and ommitting any contradicting points - has nothing to do with critical thinking.
Opinions vs facts. One-sided accusing vs rational thinking. 💁
Yeah no. Calling Nazis Nazi is a perfectly rational take. One does not to condemn an active genocide “in a neutral manner,” neither do Nazis deserve neutrality.
They’re just here trolling. The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. Israel’s finance minister said they intend to “entirely destroy” Gaza, and the English language has a word for “something you entirely destroy by fire”: it’s ‘holocaust’.
So, I think we should trigger this guy more by using the term in the original, objective sense:
This genocide, to which all current supporters of the Zionist state of Israel are party, is intentionally making a holocaust of Gaza.
A terrible decision from MIT.
These universities largely deserve their Trump funding cuts.
You would think that a college would know that the Palestinian people are not Hamas and the Palestinians are the ones being genocided by Israel so that tRump can build a golf course. MIT certainly doesn’t have the brightest. Maybe the most cowardice.
With so many schools having ties to Israeli backed donors I’m not surprised.( Apparently a political community on Lemmy doesn’t want you to use the j word)
Cowardice, stupidity and lack of emotional curiosity is what makes you a postigious place.
Would they ban the person if it was a pro Israel speech?
If no, then the school admins can fuck right off
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No, no I am certainly anti-Israel as well; I now fully believe the country should be gone away with like was done in Africa whenever they won their independence back.
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I could 100% respect a university being no politics etc whatsoever in speeches, but 5 bucks says double standard.
“No politics whatsoever” supports the status quo and is therefore political and a double standard.
Lemimygrad level of brain dead argument.
People rarely talk about politics to praise how well everything is going right now. Not being allowed to talk about politics means not being allowed to talk about changing things. If this was the rule everywhere, nothing could ever be changed (democratically).
Do you have any actual counterargument?
They do not, just ad-hominems.
Kinda brilliant on the class president’s part - still give the speech and get the media coverage for it, but do it before commencement so they’re less likely to steal your diploma as a result.