This information is being reported at a couple of international sites, but (if accurate) it has apparently been blacked out in the U.S.
The bomber at a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California, has been identified as a 25-year-old man who left an online manifesto in which he described himself as a pro-mortalist, saying people didn’t give consent to exist.
The suspect is Guy Edward Bartkus, a 25-year-old man from Twentynine Palms, a small city about 35 miles northeast of Palm Springs. He left a 30-minute audio recording in which he explained his motive for the attack.
“I figured I would just make a recording explaining why I’ve decided to bomb an IVF building, or clinic,” he said at the beginning of the recording. “Basically, it just comes down to I’m angry that I exist and that, you know, nobody got my consent to bring me here.”
Describing himself as anti-life, he adds: “I’m very against [IVF], it’s extremely wrong. These are people who are having kids after they’ve sat there and thought about it. How much more stupid can it get?”
I tried looking up some communities after I saw people complain about them. And 99.9999% of it is people venting about being told for the 50th time in twenty years that they’ll change their mind about having kids any day now. Or doctors refusing hysterectomies to unmarried women because they don’t have their husband consent(this still regularly happens in the US and Europe. To the point where there are resources where you can look up doctors who aren’t living in the 50s). Then you see the community brought up by other people and they’re often described as filled with people who want to murder children.
It’s honestly quite wild how much people take those generalized accusations at face value because they saw one or two peoeple say something inappropriate.
I have kids, and being told that I’ve mistreated them by having them is kind of offensive.
Way to ignore their valid point. No one is saying that
I have kids (some grown up) and sometimes spontaneously have this worry myself, just from looking at the news, especially the climate destruction and the persecution of LGBTQ+ people since none of my kids fit the “straight white cis men only” template of the right. When I was young I was quite clear that I didn’t want to have kids in a society that was destroying its planet. But adult decisions can be more complex and life went a different way.
Yeah, the people always ragging on anti natalists honestly are liars. They are really just touchy and insecure about their decision to have kids. They have to justify that decision by demonizing anyone’s decision to the contrary
This comment in the context of a guy bombing other people’s IVF attempts? It’s a valid choice to opt out for oneself, it’s certainly not valid to force others to opt out.
Somewhere in the middle are the folks that take any opportunity to talk about how they think anyone having a kid is highly irresponsible, standing in judgement of people who have even one kid.
I don’t care if you want to refrain from kids and stand by that decision. Closest I’ll come to not minding my own business is to mention that people can change their minds, so you may want to hedge your bets with something reversible like an IUD instead of a hysterectomy, but ultimately you may stand by the decision and that’s all your business.
The true context here is that anytime the subject of having kids comes up, those who don’t have them are demonized. This context of this article is just being used an excuse to shield that demonization from any criticism, so fuck that royally.
is the opposite of:
It’s 100% none of anyone’s business if we might change our minds. Most won’t, and it’s even questionable for our parents to say that shit, let alone internet randos.