• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      “In God We Trust” - the United States motto, written on its currency.

      You won’t find that shit in Euro notes.

      You’ve been had my friend, given the run around, fed a line of bullshit, treated like a patsy.

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        To be fair, that didn’t become the motto until the 1950s, and (I had to Google this) it wasn’t on any currency until almost a hundred years after the revolution. The founding fathers, for all their flaws, were pretty adamant about keeping the church separate from the state, most of them being either deists, naturalists, or atheists.

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          Guess it all got subverted in the meanwhile with Religion and Politics becoming increasingly mixed.

          Europe, on the other hand, has being going in the opposite direction of that, especially since the mid XX century.

          The point being that it’s not Europe that mixes Politics with Religion anymore (well, mainly, there is still some of that shit in some places), it’s the US.

          That it goes against the spirit with which the American Founding Fathers founded the country should add insult to injury to any American who thinks State should be separate from Church.

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            Society doesn’t only improve.

            There’s advances and setbacks.

            As a Finn I’m very worried about this complacency about authoritarianism. We Finns don’t have “In God We Trust” on our money, no, but it might as well say “In Bureaucracy We Trust”.

            I genuinely respect those first amendment auditors. Like a third I see are prolly a bit too douchey, but that’s their right.

            What’s the quote again?

            Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.

            — G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain (The New World #7)