Multiple injuries were reported at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Berlin commemorating the Nakba and criticizing Israel on Thursday. Police and politicians have condemned the violence.
The police could learn to keep their distance and stop instigating violence. If you push people they’ll push back. If you’re armed expect them to not give you a chance to use your weapon.
The lesson here is let people do their peaceful protesting and you won’t necessitate violence.
This isn’t a right-wing protest, this crowd doesn’t want violence, it wants to be heard. This crowd is willing to use violence to ensure it’s right to be heard is preserved.
Until I can see some evidence that the unarmed crowd instigated violence against the armed police I’m going to consider the armed police to be the instigators since they showed up armed and then approached a crowd of people who were voicing their opinion.
“The police could learn to keep their distance…” that is not how it works in Germany.
The police has the force monopoly. You do what the police says or you get in trouble. They are fair (most of the time, I experienced 2 or 3 exceptions myself throughout my life). Most of the time you will get another chance.
I was also on protests and demos myself. They are not doing anything to the crowd except something is going wrong, like:
Demonstrants not taking the pathway they should be taking like planned.
“not how it works in Germany” we ain’t talking laws, we talking morality. We are talking how things should be. Laws are irrelevant to morality and if that’s your argument then you are lost.
And I am talking about reality.
If the police don’t bring order to the chaos, we will have a bad time in this country.
As I already said, I got in trouble myself, sometimes for nothing. It is what it is, back in the time I was furious too. But now I see that it was necessary.
Why is a protest for Palestina here even necessary? Or even for Israel? I give a frick about both of these countries. They are thousands of miles away and not even on the European continent.
I don’t support this kind of extremism.
People from Palestina have a bad time in their country, ok. Then they come here to Germany. ok. They get support and can live in peace. ok. Then they make trouble in Berlin. What the frick? Are you dumb? Enjoy the peaceful life we built here.
Go protest in some country that is adjacent to Palestina. Turkey or Egypt or Syria. Or Quatar, I don’t care.
Germany is funding Israel. That’s why there are protests. Do you not know that Germany actively assists in Israels genocide? They make trouble in Berlin because Berlin is making trouble in Palestine.
Also, people are people no matter where they are or what flag they fly. Your morality and sense of human responsibility doesn’t end at a border.
The police could learn to keep their distance and stop instigating violence. If you push people they’ll push back. If you’re armed expect them to not give you a chance to use your weapon.
The lesson here is let people do their peaceful protesting and you won’t necessitate violence.
This isn’t a right-wing protest, this crowd doesn’t want violence, it wants to be heard. This crowd is willing to use violence to ensure it’s right to be heard is preserved.
Until I can see some evidence that the unarmed crowd instigated violence against the armed police I’m going to consider the armed police to be the instigators since they showed up armed and then approached a crowd of people who were voicing their opinion.
“The police could learn to keep their distance…” that is not how it works in Germany. The police has the force monopoly. You do what the police says or you get in trouble. They are fair (most of the time, I experienced 2 or 3 exceptions myself throughout my life). Most of the time you will get another chance.
I was also on protests and demos myself. They are not doing anything to the crowd except something is going wrong, like: Demonstrants not taking the pathway they should be taking like planned.
“not how it works in Germany” we ain’t talking laws, we talking morality. We are talking how things should be. Laws are irrelevant to morality and if that’s your argument then you are lost.
And I am talking about reality. If the police don’t bring order to the chaos, we will have a bad time in this country. As I already said, I got in trouble myself, sometimes for nothing. It is what it is, back in the time I was furious too. But now I see that it was necessary.
Why is a protest for Palestina here even necessary? Or even for Israel? I give a frick about both of these countries. They are thousands of miles away and not even on the European continent.
I don’t support this kind of extremism. People from Palestina have a bad time in their country, ok. Then they come here to Germany. ok. They get support and can live in peace. ok. Then they make trouble in Berlin. What the frick? Are you dumb? Enjoy the peaceful life we built here.
Go protest in some country that is adjacent to Palestina. Turkey or Egypt or Syria. Or Quatar, I don’t care.
Germany is funding Israel. That’s why there are protests. Do you not know that Germany actively assists in Israels genocide? They make trouble in Berlin because Berlin is making trouble in Palestine.
Also, people are people no matter where they are or what flag they fly. Your morality and sense of human responsibility doesn’t end at a border.