On Friday morning, West Coast port officials told CNN about a startling sight: Not a single cargo vessel had left China with goods for the two major West Coast ports in the past 12 hours. That hasn’t happened since the pandemic.
You guys are all fools. This is a good thing! The Art of the deal! This is just from Thursday:
“We’re seeing as a result that ports here in the US, the traffic has really slowed and now thousands of dockworkers and truck drivers are worried about their jobs.”
Reporter
“That means we lose less money … when you say it slowed down, that’s a good thing, not a bad thing.”
“We lost money because americans spent it on Chinese made goods and not american goods.”
For one, a lot of these goods are sold by US companies. Those jobs, that revenue on leases and equipment, are spent in the US. For two, we don’t make most of this shit here to buy at all, and in some cases like “exotic” foodstuff like coffee, we cannot make it here. Americans can literally not spend our money on something American made even if we wanted to. For three, the factories and supply chain to make the things will take decades to stand up, the same way they took decades to stand up in China, where US corporate greed for offshoring and a local authoritarian government that plans for decades, generally at the short term detriment of its people, worked together to build it.
Putting shitty tariffs on the world wont shift the above. It has to be followed with ungodly, focused government spending for a generation. Everyone knows this shit is over in a small handful of years, not 20, so no corporation is going to make the huge investment in the US infrastructure that we would need.
lol, he likely hasn’t done that either. Those ships will be shipping those goods elsewhere. However, global supply chains, as much as they save money are less environmentally friendly. So, hopefully, if trade becomes less USA centric, there is an increase in lateral trade within Asia and closer partners. Given the USA is one of the least environmentally friendly countries, I would expect any increase in production there to be worse than chinas emissions.
You probably have several products in your home delivered by a fleet of nuclear powered ships. Currently, the only tech capable of solving our energy needs is nuclear. And the new reactors are safer than the ones that come to mind with melt downs.
You probably have several products in your home delivered by a fleet of nuclear powered ships.
Not by choice though.
I only buy local, from Europe where I live, or used.
Currently, the only tech capable of solving our energy needs is nuclear.
Currently, the only tech capable of solving our energy needs is using less energy.
And the new reactors are safer than the ones that come to mind with melt downs.
And container ships aren’t known for being in line with current safety standards in anything.
They’re operated out of whatever island has the lowest taxes and least regulations, built by the lowest bidder and often crewed by people who don’t share a commmon language.
Thousands of nuclear powered ships manned by the whomever agrees to the lowest wage. This while ignoring the alternative fuels various vessels are switching to.
They are the most efficient way of transporting goods on land. Using huge cargo ships si still the most efficient way, once the distance is far enough and the volume high enough.
Ships barely pollute. They carry an extremely large amount of weight for the energy they use because they are on water. It’s the truck bringing it to your doorstep that creates the pollution. If you live on the coast, buying American could pollute more
I’m sure they will find a way to blame Biden, Hillary, Obama, the DEI and the trans. Not to mention the immigrant “invasion” that they think is a real thing.
The Orange Turd is bringing empty shelves to America. Great job MAGAts.
Again.
You guys are all fools. This is a good thing! The Art of the deal! This is just from Thursday:
His rational is powerfully idiotic.
For one, a lot of these goods are sold by US companies. Those jobs, that revenue on leases and equipment, are spent in the US. For two, we don’t make most of this shit here to buy at all, and in some cases like “exotic” foodstuff like coffee, we cannot make it here. Americans can literally not spend our money on something American made even if we wanted to. For three, the factories and supply chain to make the things will take decades to stand up, the same way they took decades to stand up in China, where US corporate greed for offshoring and a local authoritarian government that plans for decades, generally at the short term detriment of its people, worked together to build it.
Putting shitty tariffs on the world wont shift the above. It has to be followed with ungodly, focused government spending for a generation. Everyone knows this shit is over in a small handful of years, not 20, so no corporation is going to make the huge investment in the US infrastructure that we would need.
At least he has reduced the enormous amounts of pollution created by all those ships normally?
I don’t know, I’m just trying to find a sliver of hope somewhere.
lol, he likely hasn’t done that either. Those ships will be shipping those goods elsewhere. However, global supply chains, as much as they save money are less environmentally friendly. So, hopefully, if trade becomes less USA centric, there is an increase in lateral trade within Asia and closer partners. Given the USA is one of the least environmentally friendly countries, I would expect any increase in production there to be worse than chinas emissions.
Container ships are the most economical and least polluting way to ship goods per ton
Don’t worry, Trump’s got you covered…
Doesn’t mean it’s still okay for the environment. Those ships need to be transitioned to nuclear.
Holy fuck no!
You probably have several products in your home delivered by a fleet of nuclear powered ships. Currently, the only tech capable of solving our energy needs is nuclear. And the new reactors are safer than the ones that come to mind with melt downs.
Not by choice though.
I only buy local, from Europe where I live, or used.
Currently, the only tech capable of solving our energy needs is using less energy.
And container ships aren’t known for being in line with current safety standards in anything.
They’re operated out of whatever island has the lowest taxes and least regulations, built by the lowest bidder and often crewed by people who don’t share a commmon language.
Thousands of nuclear powered ships manned by the whomever agrees to the lowest wage. This while ignoring the alternative fuels various vessels are switching to.
Nobody was arguing it was.
Your second sentence I agree tho.
I thought trains were the most efficient way to ship goods, though I’ll concede that trains are notoriously bad at crossing oceans.
Not confirmed. Crossed the ocean on a train in Japan
They are the most efficient way of transporting goods on land. Using huge cargo ships si still the most efficient way, once the distance is far enough and the volume high enough.
Wikipedia entry claims shipping is the most environmentally efficient transport method.
So you are saying container ships do not cause massive pollution?
No, they are saying that any other way to transport those goods would cause more pollution.
So you are saying that by NOT transporting these goods whatsoever, the environment is harmed more?
You need to learn how to read.
They still are one of the major contributers to climate change and global pollution. Less shipping is always better.
Ships barely pollute. They carry an extremely large amount of weight for the energy they use because they are on water. It’s the truck bringing it to your doorstep that creates the pollution. If you live on the coast, buying American could pollute more
Container ships, especially large ones, are significant contributors to greenhouse gas emissions, comparable to the emissions of 50 million cars.
Can’t have expensive eggs if you don’t have eggs at all!
-taps head-
I’m sure they will find a way to blame Biden, Hillary, Obama, the DEI and the trans. Not to mention the immigrant “invasion” that they think is a real thing.