It’s only a matter of time before something like this turns into a Haymarket Square
These ice agents deserve to be targeted. Yes, I am advocating violence against agents like this.
They’re not federal agents. At best they’ve been deputized. Even that’s probably overstating their legal status.
thats why they are wearing mask, so its harder to retaliate against them, people should consider pulling thier masks off.
I fully agree. With the lack of respect for the law I don’t understand why there aren’t uprisings and riots in the streets by now!
Americans are being scarily apathetic to full takeover of fascism happening there. The constitution is already nullified if judges, mayor’s and those decrying fascism and authoritarianism are being locked away… the night is dark. They should be going by now but alas.
How many cases were there where there were no furious residents?
without showing a warrant
I’m so tired of the legalist caveat, implying a Trump judge rubber stamping warrants for these gestapo shits would have made kidnapping and torturing a woman and her infant child acceptable.
But it does highlight that any random brute could put on a mask and do this with no authorization whatsoever. It’s a fundamental human-rights and rule-of-law breakdown to fail to present a warrant. I agree that a warrent doesn’t ethically make the requests anything short of monstrous, though. That kind of legalist can suck eggs.
But it does highlight that any random brute could put on a mask and do this with no authorization whatsoever
I believe this a part of the plan.
We also need to stop using the word “arrest” when it comes to ICE. As you said, these are kidnappings.
The war for ethics has been lost decades ago. Legality is fickle and often unjust but it’s all that people have at this point.
It isn’t. The modern law is a fig leaf over naked plutocracy and apartheid.
It’s what we have in the same way a knife in your back is something you have
And yet people would rather hold on to a terrible status quo than risk it. Especially in times of desperation, and as long as they’re aware things could be worse (for them personally).
It’s the big catch-22 of modern civics and political engagement. Terrible conditions make many people look towards the systems and rulers that bring about those terrible conditions.
If you are ICE, fuck you. You should be ashamed. Your parents should be ashamed
If you are someone who stands by while these cosplayers are kidnapping and torturing people, then you deserve your place in hell
thats why they are wearing masks, so they dont get doxxed.
And to the police that showed up to arrest their neighbors and enable ICE I hope hell is real because you deserve worse
There’s close up footage you should watch because it’s madness. They throw the teen girl on the ground and assault a bunch of people.
The woman’s teen daughter was left holding the woman’s baby and stood in front of the car in an apparent attempt to stop it. After handing the child to another person, she allegedly kicked the car—and was also reportedly arrested on four charges, including child endangerment. Police have not disclosed what happened to the baby afterward.
fuck you
Yeah, police have a ton of latitude when they decide who to press which charges on and who they just let go with warnings or whatever, choosing to throw child endangerment at this girl is just straight up trolling
Like getting blood on a uniform and getting ‘assaulting an officer’ added
And the mayor had the audacity to say they don’t agree with what ICE did.
That’s great, but maybe get your police force to stop enabling their actions.
Even better, have your police force enforce the damn law. Arrest these men when they try to kidnap people without a warrant.
It’s a classic cop routine:
- Step 1: do some violence
- Step 2: realize it looks kinda bad, look around and arrest somebody else for what they just did
- Step 3: profit (time and a half for their trouble)
1: always be on lookout for slightest challenge to authority
2: arrest whoever possible
Obviously we’ve seen videos where the opposite is true too, not an absolutist, but ya def the MO for many
Pure evil.
Yeah i think she was the one endangering the child not the fucking trump SS agents
Can’t wait till people start shooting ICE and the police on sight because they were pushed too far.
I mean, they are supporting nazis, so they are nazis themselves. And the only good nazi is a dead nazi so…
Can’t wait till martial law? Fascist in Chief salivates like he did over Ivanka in that TV interview
I’m genuinely surprised it hasn’t happened yet. They’re probably staying out of the most sketchy neighborhoods.
The best way is if everyone arms themselves. Then if the incident happens, several people shoot and immediately run. Plan your escape before shooting.
They’re also usually relying on secrecy and speed. The way they quietly stopped and surrounded that innocent grad student, masked up, and kidnapped her so smoothly was terrifying.
It really seems like they’re hitting blue states hardest and where gun ownership is less common.
It’s almost like the “left” in the US shouldn’t have leaned on anti-2nd amendment rhetoric for 30 years.
2nd amendment doesn’t mean everyone should be allowed to own an automatic rifle. There is nuance here, please think.
I am not playing games when I say that I wish more American leftists owned automatic rifles.
You do realise that automatic rifle ownership by civilians is incredibly illegal in the US, right? And has been for almost 100 years… An AR-15 is not an automatic rifle.
Right. So gun laws in the states are either too restrictive or poorly written.
I know you said rhetoric, not actual 2A, but I will continue to say this every time I see it, this is not what 2A is for. It’s clearly for militias defending the state against an enemy army. It’s been mutilated into self defence stuff, but there’s nothing even approaching that there.
However, 9A does protect this right, since it has long been held by the people. Regardless, the reasoning doesn’t matter. People should be armed and train in operation and safe handling/storage/maintenance of their weapon, just in case it’s needed.
I can’t possibly express how little I care about anything you wrote.
Get guns, kill Nazis. It’s not complex.
Wow, I didn’t even write much and you lost the thread that quickly. I was agreeing with the premise.
This is exactly it. They’re specifically targeting people they know can’t or won’t fight back. Like literal kids with cancer.
So kidnapping and the police are in on it?
In some cities they are working with ICE, yes.
You can search for which cities formally have an agreement with ICE here:https://themarkup.org/tools/2025/04/16/law-enforcement-ice-cooperation-tracker
look at those wussies hiding thier faces, dont want to get doxxed.
Mayor Joseph Petty called the incident “devastating”: “As someone who prides themselves on leading a welcoming city, I am devastated to hear about the separation of a family, especially with Mother’s Day around the corner. The fear of ICE tearing a family apart is the worst nightmare of so many in our city.”
Mayor makes a phone call to the DA, then.
Mayor should stop talking about his feelings and get off his tail and do something about it.
City Police were on the scene and instead of stopping the kidnapping by ICE they subdued citizens trying to stop it. Get fucked Mayor Petty.
Fuck them up. Let’s hope it gets worse for these gestapo fucks. Take heads.
Big, strong, well trained men in tactical gear pushing, threatening and arresting women and children … and they wouldn’t go into any actual threatening situations to deal with actual violent crimes.
Bunch of cowards going after the weakest in society … classic yellow bellied fascism.
well trained
They are well trained in thuggery and how to evade legal consequences. 80% of cops wouldn’t know discipline or acting through adversity if it knocked their teeth out, and the 20% that do learned it in the military.
They def meant they are well trained in violence
Looks like Germany during the 1940s, when people were also dragged from their homes. Good luck y’all
Reporting in from Poland (Canada). We are so fucked I don’t think enough people realize it yet.
Yep, fascism has to have an in-group and an out-group. As they work through the groups of immigrants, trans people, Democrats, etc they need to find new ones to persecute. They’ll work through their own undesirables and then they’re coming for us.
It’s just like Nazi Germany in the 30s. It didn’t take long for Hitler to turn his eyes on Poland.
He will come for us. His talks of the 51st state are not a joke or a bluff. People are not taking it seriously enough.
I hope Canada nukes D.C. to protect themselves.
We don’t have any nukes.
Want some?
“We don’t have to show you anything,” one agent reportedly shot back when asked for ID or a warrant.
Actually, yea. You do. Or its just assault and kidnapping. Official paperwork is not privileged or secret. That idiot should be fired along with his chain of command.
Fired? This guy will be promoted. Shake your head. Fight back.
Actually no. https://newrepublic.com/post/194442/trump-doj-memo-ice-arrest-search-warrant
Civil liberties have already been suspended
Just because Marmalade Mussolini or his DOJ wrote a memo doesn’t make it legal. The use of the Alien Enemies Act is already highly contested in federal court. (It remains to be seen if/when courts will enforce their rulings, but just today a Tufts University student was released from ICE custody as a result of a judge’s ruling.)
I’m curious. Do they have toshow it to bystanders? To the person they are arresting sure. And I would think to family of that person… but maybe not. I doubt they have to show it to randos on the street. But, I think it is safe to assume they didn’t have it. Even if they did, thier history means they have blown any credibility on that front. As for ID. I do wonder about that. Anyone know the actual laws?
If they are expecting you to follow some sort of directive they do.
Certainly not. A cop can direct you to get out of a car without a warrant, and you are required to comply. And plenty of even simpler situations.
not if they don’t identify themselves. If they don’t they are not a cop. If some dude says pull over from a rolled up window you totally do not have to and if you are pulled over you can ask their badge number and name and to see it. This chain is not about warrants but about them identitifying themselves.
The comment that started this thread said ID or warrant. A badge is far from either. And apparently from other sources, in most states they don’t have to give you thier badge number or name. Seems a few states have a law saying they do, but only a few.
an ID is totally their badge. The warrant part was not saying something similar to an ID/badge as much as saying an acceptable alternative.
You can get a badge at the dollar store. Id, not so much. The ID has thier picture on it so that you know it is thiers. The badge… not so much. Most of us have decent idea what out state ID looks like. Maybe not enough to spot a decent forgery, but far better than a police badge which can be different. You have town, city, county, and state leos. And the all the feds. They simply are not the same thing at all.
Actually, yea. You do
For now.
No. They do no matter what. Once they tread on the Fourth the grumblings about resistance, rebellion, or revolt become a legal defense of our Constitutional rights. These people immediately get “promoted” and become a demest8c threat to the Constitution. It would then become open hunting season on ICE, with defending the Constitution becoming the legal defense. The only reason it hasn’t happened yet is because ICE is targeting weak willed areas. They are moving fast and they also happen to be getting a large percentage of illegals with only occasional “mistakes”.
There’s a court case right now. He’s suing the ability of federal judges to make essentially precedence matter.
If he wins this case in the Supreme Court, All executive orders are law until they are challenged in court, and if one person wins a judgment, It will have zero effect on other like cases.
So the playbook is he writes an executive order that ice doesn’t need to show warrants, ice doesn’t show warrant, each individual that is f***** over by this executive order has to take it to court individually, assuming they’re not already in a South American prison.
We’re a couple of judgments away from absolute dictatorship.
It’s also reported that Trump’s people are working on suspending habeas corpus. This would remove your right to challenge your arbitrary imprisonment in court. So they will be able to disappear anyone, forever, with no reason and no legal recourse. Effectively Trump will then be an absolute dictator.
Habeas corpus (/ˈheɪbiəs ˈkɔːrpəs/ ⓘ; from Medieval Latin, lit. ‘you should have the body’) is a legal procedure by which a report can be made to a court alleging the unlawful detention or imprisonment of an individual, and requesting that the court order the individual’s custodian (usually a prison official) to bring the prisoner to court, to determine whether their detention is lawful. Relief, when available, is generally governed by equitable principles.
One of the few criticisms of Lincoln is that he suspended Habeas Corpus during the Civil War. I expect that the MAGA Nazis will be invoking Lincoln’s name in this regard. They love to claim that they are the “Party of Lincoln,” and therefore he would support their treason.
They can make whatever laws they want. This is a constitutional matter. It can only be changed by a 2/3s majority vote of the house and senate.
ICE can say they don’t need a warrant. Fuck them up if they don’t have one … a warrant is required.
The president can say ICE doesnt need a warrant … fuck him, he doesn’t have the authority … they do.
The Supreme Court can say ICE doesnt need a warrant … fuck them, they do not have the authority … a warrant is still needed.
Source: The Constitution
If nothing physically stops them from doing what they say they can do, then they can do it, and the constitution is meaningless. This is what is happening, they are proving the constitution is meaningless.
The Constitution is essentially enforced by the Honor System, which is easily ignored by people who not only have no honor, but consider it a weakness that should be ruthlessly exploited. A petson with ethics and integrity can be easily bested by someone who ddoesn’t respect those qualities.
Eventually ICE will stumble upon someone with a strong interest in the Second Amendment and get themselves physically stopped. Because ICE’s actions are unconstitutional they will be considered illegal, thus whatever is done to stop them will be legal.
It is only a matter of time and this story will be in the news. MAGA thinks they can tread upon the Constitution, but the Constitution lays coiled and has sharp fangs.
The Constitution only has meaning because you all say it has meaning. All of its enforcement comes down to the Executive branch. Congress doesn’t have enforcers, the Judiciary doesn’t have enforcers. Systematically, all of the people in the Executive branch that would stop this are being forced out. The people in power have decided the Constitution has no meaning, and it’s too late to stop them. Killing some ICE agents is what they want so they have the justification to declare martial law and subjugate the entire country by force.
I applaud your optimism. But anyone resisting ICE with armed force will be killed by a SWAT team and immediately branded a terrorist by all the media.
We don’t know if they’re actually getting any “illegals”
Helpful neighbor: “No, I’m with ICE and I’m arresting you motherfuckers.”
*We all get to pretend to be ICE or whatever the fuck if there’s no requirement to prove who you are
I’m surprised armed plainclothes and or tactically dressed leftist groups, who’s goal is to specifically protect accused immigrants, haven’t popped up.
Am I allowed to shoot in self defense if this happens in a stand your ground state?
Yes. Will the court decide in your favor? Who knows, but I’d wager probably not. It’s better to try it and find out then let this happen though, or probably a better idea would be to get out ASAP and try to become a ghost if possible. Eventually this won’t be tolerated, but people need to see others stand up before they will usually.
There needs to be a citizens APB tool so when this happens people can swarm the scene and block them from leaving or backup entering.
Hmmm, good idea. Maybe I’ll call it “Melt”
Nah, that’s what we call the tool of resistance AFTER the peaceful action gets escalated to violence. Maybe H.A.M. (is that an acronym?) radio operators could help setup a system to facilitate the use the communication and education for setup. Keep in mind that the FCC has control of radio bands and frequency in the US.
Not sure what a you would call the equipment of the communication system.
Not sure if this is sarcasm. HAM can be part of the solution but I don’t know if the technology is nearly as easy to use or accessible as a cellphone. Phones do have drawbacks of course, like tracking, but the Signal for one, does have an API so you could potentially use its network for messaging.
AntifAlert
Looks like nazi germany
MAGA is the movement, GOP is the party and ICE is the goon squad. Deportation apparatus is operational. Media cooptation, military buildup and foreign bullying is incomplete, but underway. All in all, their evil campaign still lacks scale and foresight, but they’re getting there. Opposition so far is not much more than the eye movement of the deer in the headlights.
With enough time, people around the world won’t be comparing things to Nazi Germany anymore, but instead to Trumpian America
Just another day in this version of America. Wonder how those protest non-votes feel now.
Probably still something something genocide supporters
I see it. Avoid genocide by becoming literal nazis? Nazis probably didn’t call it genocide either.
