Summary

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth denied allegations that he texted classified war plans to a Signal group chat that mistakenly included The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg.

The National Security Council confirmed the chat’s authenticity but called the inclusion of Goldberg an inadvertent mistake.

Lawmakers from both parties demanded investigations, with former CIA Director Leon Panetta warning of potential espionage violations.

Hegseth dismissed Goldberg as a “deceitful” journalist. Trump denied knowledge of the incident.

  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    You’re right Pete. It wasn’t texting.

    It was RCS through an untraceable encrypted messaging app named Signal

    Which is WORSE since records are destroyed

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      About the technical part, Signal uses the Signal Protocol instead of RCS. (Google also uses the Signal Protocol to encrypt some RCS messages in Google Messages, but the Signal Protocol and RCS are not the same thing.)

  • The_Caretaker@lemm.ee
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    Getting blackout drunk and sending texts isn’t uncommon for raging alcoholics. Source: I used to be an alcoholic (sober for 6 years)

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      To be clear, Hegseth (the guy with a history of getting blackout drunk) isn’t the same as Michael Waltz, the guy who invited Goldberg to the chat.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/

      https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/03/jeffrey-goldberg-group-chat-broke-internet/682161/

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Waltz

      Waltz, unlike Hegseth, is not a random idiot, he definitely knows better.

      “Waltz received four Bronze Stars while serving in the Special Forces during multiple combat tours in Afghanistan, the Middle East, and Africa. He served in the Bush administration as a defense policy director in the Pentagon and as counterterrorism advisor to Vice President Dick Cheney.”

      As far as Hegseth (or any of the rest of them for that matter) was concerned, the list was all vetted and pre-approved people.

      The fact that NONE of them actually vetted the list before saying anything speaks volumes.

      They went down the line asking “Hey, who else in your department needs to be a contact on this?” and they all sounded off one by one, except Goldberg.

      Nobody thought to ask “Hey, J.G., we haven’t heard from you yet. In fact, wait, who is J.G.?”

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            That was ages ago. Each covid infection causes brain damage, each person has had covid 4 to 8 times by now, and older people are hurt the most by covid… So even if the guy was smart 30 years ago, we can’t assume he is smart today

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              Why do you think everyone has had covid a bunch of times? As far as I’m aware i’ve never had it and I’m sure there are billions more on the planet who haven’t.

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        This makes me wonder if this was part of a ploy to let the public know how messed up things are in a “blink twice if you need help” kind of way. Or did Waltz feel these people are undeserving of their cabinet appointments and so managed to lift the veil so we can all see it? Is he mad that he wasn’t considered for the Secretary of Defense position? Is this his way of being Jim from The Office and looking into the camera?

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    Pete blames it on his wife who he’s going to beat later on. She should have told him that journalists can take screenshots.

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    No justice without truth, Congress won’t impeach and DOJ won’t prosecute, we’ve been here before with Mueller and the insurrection.

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    They’re saying he didn’t share classified war plans and you need to check the word usage with such lies. What probably happened was that they declassified everything that was shared. So what he is saying is now technically correct - the war plans are not classified. So he did not share ‘classified’ plans. This would also mean Tulsi is not ‘lying’ when she says that no classified information was shared. Typical obfuscation of facts by words.

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    He knows they have the screenshots and the NSC confirmed it, right?

    https://x.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1904221405618577650

    NSC statement:  “At this time, the message thread that was reported appears to be authentic, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain. The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials. The ongoing success of the Houthi operation demonstrates that there were no threats to our servicemembers or our  national security.” - NSC Spokesman Brian Hughes

    The Trump administration does not deny this Signal group chat about the war planning for the Yemen strikes is real. Trump’s top national security advisers added reporter

    @JeffreyGoldberg

    @TheAtlantic

    to the war planning text chain on non-government social media app, perhaps breaking secrecy laws. Read this shocking story below.

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    He’s going with the Shaggy defense? “It wasn’t me”. I mean, it works for them. It will probably all blow over because no one is going to do anything. But this should absolutely destroy him.

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      🎵Journalist caught me on Signal (It wasn’t me)

      He saw me schemin’ on Yemen (It wasn’t me)

      Even list of ordinance (It wasn’t me)

      He even caught me on a screenshot (It wasn’t me)

      He saw the bombs dropping on Sanaa (It wasn’t me)

      Heard the words the CIA told me (It wasn’t me)

      Late night host laughter getting louder (It wasn’t me)

      Shouldn’t have drunk that vodka!🎶

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    I’m not usually an alarmist, but this one has the hair on the back of my neck up…

    This feels like a false flag to target journalists spreading “misinformation.”

    I was reading the Atlantic article thinking 'What a bunch of dumb fucks." Until I read this part:

    The Hegseth message goes on to state, “Waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus. 2 immediate risks on waiting: 1) this leaks, and we look indecisive

    Hard stop right there. “This is intentional.”

    Then Tulsi comes out talking about “aggressively pursuing” journalists., and now P Heggs is just gonna play dumb?

    Smells pretty bad, imo.

    (False flag may not be the right term here, but I hope my point is still clear enough)

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      and we look indecisive

      Ugh. I didn’t want to agree with you but this little flex for the faithful seals it.

    • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      And yet the information was valid and confirmed? The bombs dropped right when Signal User “Pete Hegseth” said they would; NSC confirmed this was a genuine thread. It seems too elaborate to be a false flag event.

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        I’m not saying it was bad info. And adding a journalist to a “private” signal chat that was probably going to happen either way isn’t exactly elaborate.

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            I think so…

            The attack wasn’t the “false flag” (I think I misused that term), that was going to happen anyway. I think adding a journalist to their little group chat about it was.

            They knew it would come out, and now they have the pretext to start going more aggresively after journalists spreading “deceitful” information.

            I’m not saying I’m right, it just stinks.

            • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              But the information wasn’t deceitful, it was verifiably true. The people this looks bad for is those involved in the group chat, save the journalist. It looks especially bad for Mike Waltz, the user who added the journalist to the chat. I suppose i just don’t see how the Trumpists could benefit from this leaking the way it has.

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      I think it was a deliberate leak. A mole from inside the administration is trying to warn us of Trump’s actions before he does them.

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        >Signal is most secure with these new usernames and group chat links, sir, let me arrange this for the whole small group from your account

        Ya but… stupidity… hmmm 🤷‍♂️

        If someone left their phone unlocked, that’d make sense. (I assume a serious wartime messaging app would make it very difficult to just leave unlocked like that… could be doing lots of biometrics too)

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      These dipshits can’t get their thumbs out of each other’s butts long enough to get their story straight. I’d laugh if I thought there would be any real consequences for this nonsense.

      Only 46 months to go…