Summary
The Trump Store released $50 “Trump 2028” hats Thursday, sparking backlash online as Trump has repeatedly hinted at running for a third term.
“I have had more people ask me to have a third term,” Trump said on March 31, claiming the 2020 election was “totally rigged.”
Steve Bannon said he’s exploring “five or six different alternatives” to enable a third run.
Critics on social media called it “insane” and a sign of “fascist” ambitions. Though barred by the 22nd Amendment, Trump could run again if it were overturned by Congress and the states. However, it would require a two-thirds vote of Congress and three-fourths vote of the states.
If no-one stops him, then the US only has itself to blame.
The tangerine pufferfish has an incredible ability to say a thing enough that it becomes true enough to happen.
I’m against violence, but I’m not sure urinating and/or defecating on anyone wearing this hat counts as violence
Then maybe you’re against aggression and OK with defense. Not all violence is bad.
I think I’d be surprised if he lived that long. I know he’s “in perfect health” but that’s getting quite up there.
I think he would run and “serve” no matter what he needs to do. Taking naps and putting brown-nosers fully to work doing his bidding 90% of the day is a small price to pay for a narcissist obsessed with being talked about
I think it will take his death or Republicans growing an ounce of spine to remove him
Kissinger lived to be 100 years old. It’s always the hateful ass holes that hang on forever.
Only the good die young, only evil seems to live forever.
And these hats still had to be designed, manufactured and shipped.
Meaning, this wasn’t exactly done yesterday. Meaning that while Trump was publicly stating that “they want me to run for a 3rd term, but I can’t” this was likely already in the works.
Not surprising in the least, but still worth pointing out and adding to the already huge pile of bs coming from him and his suckers.
No different than any other conservative playbook.
“I know nothing about project 2025”
meanwhile https://www.project2025.observer/
“The trans people are abusing our kids!”
Meanwhile, page 50: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/2/2/2221200/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-50
“They’re spreading misinformation!”
Which is always https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO
The projection is the only thing consistent
Fantastic links here I appreciate the effort.
There’s no way he will live that long
Welp. It was a good run, America.
Almost three hundreds years of progress undone by a man that cosplays a billionaire Cheeto.
Truly remarkable.
Longest lasting representative democracy in history, ended by a felon rapist, while a solid chunk of the country cheered.
Truly a weak, pathetic, stupid, shameful country.
Representative for who? Natives, black people, queers, anyone remotely to the left wouldn’t say the US has been exactly democratic during it’s time. Trump and the GOP are just the current incarnation of the settlers that massacred the indigenous people and the racists who enforced slavery and later Jim Crow and segregation. They have been a part of America since it’s founding.
I think if more Americans were honest about how shitty their country has always been, maybe they could understand how Trump is merely a symptom of a deeper rot.
Oh, no, we aren’t even close to finished. By the time we are done, whatever is left of the Republican party will be very sorry they started all this nonsense.
Wish I shared your enthusiasm, but Americans have sleepwalked through everything so far. I don’t see that changing before it’s much too late. Only thing that saved Europe was the good guys swooping in. That ain’t happening in this scenario. We have to save ourselves and I don’t see it happening.
How is it fucking soft launching fascism? The US is already at the concentration camp step, it is already fully blown fascism.
MAGAts will proudly wear these acts of treason.
…and who exactly is going to stop him? All evidence so far suggests he will continue to do whatever the fuck he wants and continue to get away with it, simply because nobody has the power or the will to stop him
Juan Merchan was obliged to do so by the law, the Constitution, and good-old ethics. But he kissed the ring, instead.
Prison. Now. For him and all his corrupt, openly criminal Constitution-shredding cronies. We are far past the point of hand-waving over the open criminality and corruption. And in Trump’s case, legitimate Constitutionally-defined treason. Mass arrests and convictions of these criminals needs to happen now. Right now. Even if we the people need to take care of it ourselves. Nobody is coming to save us.
It still isn’t currently legal for him to run for a third term. This is how confident he is the law will be changed or ignored.
It won’t be his third term, it’ll be his fourth since the Democrats stole the 2020 election with widespread voter fraud and cheating (“the biggest fraud, and the biggest cheating, some say, many people say - and these are clever people - the biggest there has been”). So that’s ok then.
Well, since everything you just said is complete bullshit, it would be his third term.
This is one law he can’t ignore. If the ammendment doesn’t pass the house and senate with a two thirds vote and the idiot gets sworn in for a third term, it becomes legal hunting season. He would instantly become a domestic threat to the Constitution and any US citizen could legally attack him or anyone giving him aid. The US citizens would all basically become bounty hunters, and anyone that fought back to defend the illegal third term asshole would be considered a domestic threat as well.
Pray this man is really this stupid. I kind of want to see that drama unfold.
If the ammendment doesn’t pass the house and senate with a two thirds vote and the idiot gets sworn in for a third term, it becomes legal hunting season.
How long ago would someone have said that about “if the president ignores a ruling of the Supreme Court in order to deport American citizens without due process”?
Or “If people in plain clothes claim to be Federal agents and grab people off the street without badges or warrants”?Our whole government has decided Trump can do these things. Republicans follow him like a cult leader, but democrats stand by and open doors for him.
If ICE comes to someone’s property they can be sent packing (and have been). If ICE stops the wrong person on the street they are likely to get messed up … they are just customs agents. The only reason they are getting to run wild like this is because they are catching slightly ignorant people off guard (not trying to be insulting, just meaning that they don’t know their rights).
There is no fix for the Supreme Court … most of them are corrupt and need to be impeached, but they is no legal path to do it.
Our whole government has decided Trump can do these things. Republicans follow him like a cult leader, but democrats stand by and open doors for him.
And if the same thing happens when Trump runs again in 2028 what will be the difference?
Trump is not eligible to run for president again. It would take a two thirds vote from both the house and senate … it will not happen.
If he declares himself president after this second term it would be done illegally, and any US citizen could then attack him legally as a domestic threat to the Constitution. Trump is stupid, but he is not that stupid.
Trump is also not “allowed” to ignore court orders, yet here we are.
Yes, but some ignoring that portion of the Constitution and declaring themselves president illegally basically makes it legal to attack them.
The shirt on the store says “rewrite the rules” so yeah…
This is why they are so actively defying the courts and ignoring their rulings, especially the Supreme Court, and he’ll be doing it as often as possible between now and Election Day 2025. That way, when he defies them to serve a 3rd term, it will just be the latest in a long series of violations, and people will be too fatigued to fight about it.
Is it just wishful thinking that we don’t have 3+ years until the election?
Oh there will be a fight. That’s for sure.
I agree. I should have stressed that that’s their strategy, not that it will necessarily work.
It’s more than likely just another grift to leech money from his drove of idiot supporters… but who knows with this asshole
It still isn’t currently legal for him to run for a third term.
Being a convicted felon made it illegal for him to run for a second term. Still didn’t stop him.
You can run as a felon. You can even run for president from jail.
Since he was eligible to run, the only process (that I know of) that could’ve made it illegal is as a possible consequence in an impeachment conviction in the Senate.
are you sure about that? theres been candidates literally in prison receiving electoral votes before
I’m sure Spongebob has received write in votes before. That doesn’t make him a legal candidate.
The strategy they’ve been floating for years is: have two other candidates run while he runs for the house. Trump gets chosen as house speaker, meanwhile the President and VP resign, making Trump president. Then they argue this is technically constitutional since he didn’t win an election to become president.
That’s why it’s essential that after 2026, there is a push to eliminate this loophole. It may take a constitutional change, but first it’s going to take absolute annihilation of Republicans in the midterms.
What is for sure is that he is confident he can sell a fuck ton of hats!
Or they will just ignore the law. Law is no barrier to this cult.
Pretty sure this is him being confident he can grift even more money off his army of mindless cultists.
To be clear. It’s not just “the law” it’s the goddamn constitution
Just a piece of paper unless someone enforces it.
People that have no understanding of history, nations, and laws say things like this.
its not wrong though
The Founding Fathers gave us the means to enforce it with the 2nd Amendment.
Unfortunately, the tyrants have people with far more guns and resources at their disposal. “The blood of patriots and tyrants,” indeed.
They have the resources to stop many thousands of people. They do not have the force to stop millions.
The trick is getting millions of people willing to die with together at the same time.
The question is always about how much are you willing to sacrifice for your nation.
No they don’t. Liberals are well armed too.
What we have are competent leaders. All those strong military leaders that spent their lives rising through the ranks to the highest levels, have been replaced by incompetent loyalist idiots, and now they are on our side. When it kicks off, at least half of the military rank & file will side with the competent leaders they respect, and as the MAGA military flounders, more and more will defect.
In addition, most people visualize a Civil War in which we are on our own, but that won’t happen. HitlerPig has very few allies in the world, and they are generally as incompetent as he is. Right off the bat, Canada and Mexico will side with the American Patriots against the MAGA Nazis, and so will Europe, once they band together to defeat Russia.
I don’t have the faith you do in our military to do the right thing, but I hope you’re right.
My mom used to always speed like crazy, and when people would complain, pointing to the speed limit signs, she’d always respond with something along the lines of “signs can’t limit speed, let me know if you see a cop instead.” Some people just don’t give a shit about the forms of soft power meant to keep people in line without taking real action against them. My mom was one, and our current president is another. The funny thing is that we’re going to have to ignore them as well to stop him.
The problem is, the law DOES matter for us dregs. It only doesn’t apply for the wealthy.
Well, it matters for us if there’s enough people to punish everyone. It’s like speeding - there aren’t enough traffic cops to catch every speeder, so while my mom would’ve gotten plenty of tickets if there were, in reality she rarely ever got one. If we organize, we can overwhelm the criminal justice system. It’s not a fun prospect, and I’d really hoped we could pull ourselves out of this situation by other means, but our current president is actively advertising his plans to become a dictator - working within the system is no longer an option.
I just broke a dudes nose the other day that drove like a maniac and blew through a stop sign on my block, nearing hitting me, got out of his car and threated me, swung, missed, and got a broken nose courtesy of my fist. People that ignore “soft power” will find the wall that stops them eventually.
Well, if you ever get the opportunity to punch Trump in the nose, I hope you take it and more.
I would love to.
it’s ment for americans. more than soft people
It’s brilliant bc all the “moderates” love how SOFT it is
He’s managed to piss off everyone outside his cult. He’d be lucky to finish his second term.
Critics on social media called it “insane” and a sign of “fascist” ambitions.
I don’t believe that ‘being able to be elected by voters one more time’ is even close to being the same as a ‘fascist dictatorship’.
Hitler was elected to office. Being elected doesn’t mean one doesn’t have fascist ambitions.
Incorrect. Hitler never won the elections he ran in. Instead, President Hindenburg appointed him after facing pressure from various directions.
You are correct, his party had won elections.
The point being that elections foes not mean one is not a wannabe dictator. Perhaps a better example would be Orbán.
Not everyone is Hitler.
The guy using the same rhetoric as Hitler in his campaigns wishes he was, though…
Not all fascists are Hitler.
No one disagrees with that. But there are fascists in charge of the USA right now, and they’re apparently modelling much of what they do after Mussolini and Hitler.
Did Putin write this?
Seems like there’s a rise of shit takes on Lemmy today.
When Angie entered her 16th year of being German chancellor, USians yelled about dictatorship too. I had several discussions about how simply remaining in power for a long time does not mean one is a dictator, as long as free and equal elections happen. I may not have agreed with CDU voters (ever), I certainly have never voted for them, but tough.
Circumstances in this case however do suggest that he’s trying to overthrow their entire system and this third term stuff is just an overt symptom of a disregard for their constitution.
what are you waffling about!? obviously not the same thing at all
What’s not the same thing? I didn’t say anything was the same thing as another thing?
Except it’s not being able to be elected, because he’s served two terms and that limitation isn’t just a law, it’s an amendment. I don’t care how much of congress they control, changing it will require a new amendment and that’s just exceedingly unlikely to happen, much less happen before the end of his current term. So if he can’t change the rules, attempting to stay in power anyway is absolutely fascist dictatorship material.
The first amendment is an amendment but he ignores that one.
Ignoring the law is what makes Trump’s approach dictatorial.
And that’s also fascist. If we’re assembling a list of the fashy shit Trump has done one by one we might be here a while.
The 22nd amendment does not prohibit Trump from serving a third term. It prohibits Trump from being elected a third time. Weak ass document.
If only it covered vice president succession as well… Oh wait…
What are you talking about? The amendment makes no mention of VP or succession.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
The amendment doesn’t have to because VP already has the same requirements as president in the main body of the Constitution.
Amendments are only the change being made, not reiterating what already existed. VP used to just be the second place in the presidential election.
VP already has the same requirements as president in the main body of the Constitution.
Show me how this keeps Trump from being allowed to succeed into POTUS. Yall are backpedalling because you’ve never actually read the Constitution.
The 22nd amendment prohibits Trump from doing this
No it doesn’t
well sure, but the “main body” (the articles…) does
That definitely makes it not fascism right? :P
Biggest evidence of fascism I see is a constitution which explicitly enshrines the right to enslave people.
No, it definitely does prevent him. You can do not serve UP TO half of someone else’s term BEFORE you serve your own two. It’s a total of 10 years, and you cannot be VP if you’re ineligible for President.
Actually, they’re right. The 22nd amendment prevents someone from being elected into office after serving 2 terms or 2 terms and half of someone else’s.
It’s technically silent on being elevated to the Presidency by other means than an election after serving 2 terms.
The real crazy bit is that the Speaker of the House is 3rd in line, and technically doesn’t have to be a member of Congress. So ttechivally the GOP could name Trump Speaker and get rid of POTUS and Veep (through resignation or impeachment/conviction) and have Trump be President again.
Your phrasing could use some help, but you’re correct that there is a flaw in the text of the amendment and the Presidenial Succession rules that may allow for shenanigans.
But the clear intent is to prevent 3rd terms, and any attempt to circumvent the amendment is definitely dictator shit.
But the clear intent is to…
And there’s the rub. You have an extremely weak and vague Constitution that everyone has so far just agreed to follow with a wink wink, nod nod. Once the first demagogue showed up, that shit went out the window.
Except it’s not being able to be elected, because he’s served two terms and that limitation isn’t just a law, it’s an amendment.
Now how would it be “fascist” to alter the jurisdiction so a politician can be elected for one more term?
Simple. If done by a single person or small group that is not representative of the whole, it’s facism. If done with the blessing of the people, it’s not.
If trump passed an amendment changing that, and did so by acquiring the proper amount of votes in all areas, that would be fine.
If he does it by saying “I can because I say so”, that’s facism.
I know you’re just being a troll or intentionally ignorant, but that’s the answer. You’re intentionally stripping ALL THE NUANCE out and trying to act naive.
To be fair, that just makes it authoritarian, not fascist. It’s all the other stuff he does combined with that which makes it fascist.
Fair point. I was focusing more on the “with or without the people’s blessing” aspect.
If trump passed an amendment changing that, and did so by acquiring the proper amount of votes in all areas, that would be fine.
Thank you, that already explains some of this discussion to me.
I know you’re just being a troll or intentionally ignorant
This was uncalled for. Please do not do that.
You’re intentionally stripping ALL THE NUANCE out and trying to act naive.
Please do not assume my “intentions” here and misjudge me based on your assumptions. I have almost no clue of US politics (I’m German), and all I do is try to understand what’s the big deal here. I don’t think that’s a bad thing.
Then, with all due respect, stfu. If you don’t know American law, don’t be up there spouting your opinion of American law. You see me here spouting off uninformed about German law?
You’re here saying it’s not facist to elect him a third time when it literally violates our constitution. Pick an insult and lob it at yourself - you’re not worth further time.
Then, with all due respect, stfu.
Sometimes it’s wiser to write less, you know?
If you don’t know American law, don’t be up there spouting your opinion of American law.
Curiousity is not an opinion. How can I get to know American law if questions about American law are answered with personal attacks?
I don’t believe that ‘being able to be elected by voters one more time’ is even close to being the same as a ‘fascist dictatorship’.
Where was the question? I only see misinformed assumptions and straight falsehoods.
I refer you to my original request about stfu-ing
