Marilu Mendez said when ICE vehicles began following her and her husband Monday and then surrounded their car on Tallman Street in New Bedford, she took out her cell phone and started recording.
Her video shows a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforement agent using a large hammer to break the back passenger window of their car.
Marilu said the agents were focused on her husband, Juan, but kept calling him “Antonio”, the name of another man who lives in their building.
Juan Mendez is now being held in a detention facility in Dover, New Hampshire, with a hearing scheduled for May 7.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller
Absolute legend
When the first ICE terrorist inevitably catches a bullet, what happens next?
Ever seen a movie called V for Vendetta?
Terrorism charges, and even more privileges and equipment and less oversight for these thugs.
It would need to happen at scale.
So the plan is to corner the public illegally and entrap them on terror charges for trying to live. Got it.
ACAB
Rinse and repeat!
Gestapo.
I said that on a reddit post about ICE kidnapping someone, and now my account has been banned, they even went as far as banning my IP adress so any new account I make gets banned instantly.
ive seen an increase in shadowbanning, and someone on another forum said reddit has AGIAN updated thier filtering processes. just go on the shadowban sub, you notice alot of people getting banned for no reason at all, simply because thier “new accounts, or inactive accounts” that started posting is being flagged as spam and instantly shadowbanned.
I consider this a win. They’ll slowly bleed users until all that’s left is the fodder we really don’t want to interact with anyway. Besides, with 4chan’s demise, something tells me the trolls will mass migrate to Reddit.
I really don’t consider it a loss, it really was the last push I needed to fully migrate to lemmy. Only downside now being that I can no long keep stirring the pot on Reddit.
We should get IP banned on every public network we can access!
I hadn’t thought of that. Gosh, can you imagine Reddit getting worse? That’s just spine tingling.
That’s not what usually happens with censorship, though. Censorship can be very effective, which is why it’s so dangerous, and why we have the 1st amendment in the US.
I got banned for insulting musk
I was posting his Doge email adress in the comments, and that would get deleted instantly. But it didn’t get me banned for some reason
Do none of these folks have guns?
Then she and her husband would be dead I suppose.
There’s two things here to consider. And it’s very important that this conversation starts amongst more people, and more communities.
These Nazis are coming for communities that they think are easy targets, that will give no real resistance. But what happens if that changes? What if in a flip of a switch, unorganized but deliberate violence is purposefully used to address these actions? That when they came, hypothetically, and they broke the glass, they were immediately met with fatal gunfire?
And of course this too would happen in succession other places in similar instances. When the Nazis came their foot soldiers were struck down. What would then happen?
Two things can both be true. They could be scared and forced to back down, which to some degree may be valid. But I think the worse latter would happen, which could also be good but dangerous— because these are “federal law enforcement” so they will claim they will enact the insurrection act in order to bring soldiers to heel in the cities and places and to assist the Nazis.
And this is where the chess pieces move towards an end game situation. Either the people then continue to resist the Nazis with force if need be, and then hopefully get the soldiers to realize this is bullshit and have them turn as well— which they might— or the people will cower and they’d offer up the offenders and compatriots in order to believe they’d save their own skin while simultaneously signing all their death warrants.
Folks need to understand that protesting is now a nonstarter. You have to protest and resist peacefully in every mass setting you can. The system needs to be dragged to a halt economically for the pressures to start hurting those that can make this stop in a nonviolent way.
But if this fails, violence becomes the means of resistance because it becomes the monopoly change agent. Either it will be used upon all of us, and we all inevitably die under tyranny, or it’s used by us to take back and some of us may perish but under freedom.
These games and actions have happened in other cultures and societies at different times in the past. Some with the good results some with the bad.
But rest assured if you sit behind your keyboard and do nothing. If you prepare to sacrifice nothing. You are all but guaranteed to lose everything.
But what happens if that changes? What if in a flip of a switch, unorganized but deliberate violence is purposefully used to address these actions?
If you resist arrest, you’re definitely MS-13.
Also, and this cannot go without saying often enough but… how many times have you had to kill someone in self defense? Not, like, in a video game or a power fantasy, but IRL?
Was the first time you did it easy? Like, did you feel anything when you pulled a trigger or swung a weapon and saw someone’s life end?
“Just do unspeakable things to your oppressors” is such a cringe, fantastical take, because it assumes this population of hardened killers who simply haven’t had the need to indulge in blood-drenched super-violence.
You don’t just flip a switch and start killing people. We aren’t all secretly Rambo.
Trust me, I would not even flinch if I had to watch Trump get put in a wood chipper, and hear his screams. I have less than Zero empathy for corrupt world leaders, and Epstein Island visitors.
True, but nobody knows what you’re good at until you try. You’d be surprised by people and what they’re capable of. Some of the best soldiers I saw in the army were gangly dorky looking dudes that had never fired a shot before training. In fact, those guys are easier to train than “good ol boys” because they haven’t picked up any bad shooting habits.
In fact, those guys are easier to train
Trained by whom?
Your premise was that this violence was unorganized.
My point wasn’t so much for the training but how easily they picked up on it.
If you want a better example, I was at a bar in Lawton ok, home of ft sill. At a bar one night I saw a fight happen where 2 civilians took on 5 military personnel out of uniform. (Dunno what units or rank or anything) The civilians did wind up getting the shit kicked out of em but 2 of the military guys got really fucked up, one looked like rocky after the first movie, the other was unconscious on the ground. If you think about it in a life or death situation, yeah the 2 guys would be dead, but so would 2 of theirs. That means the next 2 guys who come up against this crew (now consisting of only 3 guys), have much better odds. It’s not thousands of little fights, it’s one continuous fight.
Man you guys have forgotten how the US treated black people when we armed ourselves.
Live free or die.
And Trump would use this to further fuel his “violent criminal terrorists” rhetoric.
Y’all say stuff like this like he needs fuel. Like he won’t just make broad claims that are blatantly lies. Why do y’all keep thinking he needs ammunition? He makes his own. Don’t worry about giving rhetoric to a fascist. Instead worry about giving fascists bricks to the face.
Because this would be actual hard “evidence” of all the bullshit they’re claiming much like the few cases where an illegal immigrant has killed a US citizen that they keep blasting about as if that represents the majority of immigrants.
It’s dangerous because it’s more than just the lies and rhetoric that they’re currently pushing. Furthermore, I don’t see this scenario playing out well for the people doing the shooting as they’re just going to get murdered by ICE or the police once found and then it will be an easy justification for this corrupt administration to escalate and do the same to every other person they want to detain and ship out of the country. It’s a surefire way to win a “battle” but lose the “war.” More tactful approaches are needed at this time.
It doesn’t matter
Is that worse than El Salvador?
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Or not.
Look at this guy, these thugs are living their best life now that they have a blank check to terrorize people without due process.
If you’re outside USA
- stay there
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If you’re inside understand there is no going back from this, you will not be able to vote your way out of this. Go to the protests this weekend.
I read somewhere Donald is trying to make it illegal to protest. Sooner or later he’s just going to rip that Constitution up and he’ll be like, “now Dems… you’re in a Constitutional crisis.”
I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if it came out that he has special toilet paper printed with the Constitution’s text so he can literally wipe his ass with it
I’d rather tell people to get out of the country if they can or focus on getting out of the country
Go to the protests this weekend.
More is needed. I’m not a history buff, so I don’t know the exact number of times peacefully protesting has worked in authoritarian regimes, but…
Sure, but I think it’s about momentum and building blocks. Can’t ask Joe Schmo to get to the guillotines right now…not even sure I personally agree with that anyway…but we as an American society have gotten very, very comfortable with a life full of conveniences. I think a lot of people are seeing things falling apart not sure what to do. Attending a peaceful protest is really energizing and hopeful for folks that are looking to take any sort of action. You see so many other people feeling the same way you do and it kind of snaps you out of something and you realize you care and your neighbors care. Yes fighting directly against an enemy is needed but a lot of revolution and resistance is also caring for your community and taking care of one another when systems fall. I think there’s a quiet power in just showing up for one another. Why put out the doom message that step 1 is not enough, when it’s going to require step 1, 2, 3…and so on.
Peaceful protests rarely lead to anything against authoritarians on their own. They do tend to gather a lot of people though, who will over time get less and less peaceful.
And won’t feal alone or isolated
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If that happens in the US we’ll have CiviI War II.
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I pretty much agree with everything you just said. Humanity is pretty fucked one way or another. And yes I believe the survivors will eventually rebuild but that won’t be in our lifetime. I’m personally just trying to last as long as I can at this point.
As an old leftist who has become disillusioned, i wish the young generation would stop wasting time like we did and skip the protesting bit and go to guillotines. I feel like every new generation discovers the same injustices and jumps the same hoops, then they get jobs and homes and kids and that ends, new generation comes, repeat. We never actually make it past protests before we become unable to do anything more
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Nobody is going to live a normal life anymore if things continue.
Maybe it would be more helpful if the old leftists who wasted too much time protesting started putting their lives on the line instead of insisting their children should do it for them.
Oh I’m ready, but then you get shit on for not being a nice little peaceful protestor
So many people are so convinced that other people should commit suicide by cop and not them.
RIP Willem Van Spronsen
People can’t even stop using reddit or twitter, I don’t think they can even comprehend a fight for their freedom.
Yes, its time for a bit more than protests. We need to start relying on Jury Nullification
Jury nullification only helps if you get an actual jury.
Well we don’t get a home, jobs are being replaced with AI, and no one can afford children. So we can avoid those roadblocks lol
wanna bet they arnt all LEO.
JFC.
all i see are terrorist braking property that’s not theirs to kidnap innocent people. they are creating terror in me and many other Americans. therefor ICE are terrorists by my definition.
ICE… ISIS… is all the same to me…
2a bros…? When you gonna defend us from the gubmint tyranny?
They are going after brown people. Most Second amendment people are either white racists or other brown people who are trying to pull up the ladder and happy they are going after “bad” brown people.
Also they are going after mostly undocumented, who wouldn’t be legally allowed to own a gun.
Most Second amendment people are either white racists
They’re also often larpers that like buying toys and playing pretend. True action is foreign to them.
Everyone is looking around at everyone else to do something.
Be the change you want to see.
Yeah you’re right. I suppose it’s foolish to expect the guys who said they were preparing for government tyranny to do anything when the government starts tyrannizing.
ICE have gone too far nowadays.
They’ve been morally unacceptable since day 1.
A republican guy I used to work with was in huge support for ICE doing sweeps during trump’s first administration. I asked him why he was in support of another armed gov’t group going around cities asking for papers. He made it clear that they weren’t going to go after people like him or me. Even after I pointed out what he was saying, he was OK with it. He was educated too. Just fucking morally awful people.
Most humans are really like that. It’s why it is ok for AI to replace us.
There’s a huge fucking understatement LOL. I like you :)
Fuck this infel fuck. Every Nazi ICE shitpile should be targeted and taken out by Americans.
Isn’t this exactly the thing that the 500 million guns in the US was supposed to stop?
Anyone from 101st Keyboard Militia wanna chime in?
There really isn’t a good option there. Someone with a gun goes to protect these people in the car. Ice calls in back up/police or just guns down the shooter, label a terrorist, double down on their claims these people were in fact threats and get the insurrection act passed on Sunday do to media outlets using fear mongering against people who want the constitution upheld.
A single person or a group of 5 even with guns can’t do anything to help singular people against an army. Also the right has pushed for years, “they don’t care about you so why should you care about them”. Many conservatives have been divided intentionally. Taught to not help anyone but themselves, or maybe their family, but they will choose themselves over family most times.
Those 1-5 people would have more of an effect not fighting the random ice officer on the street but doing other things, most of which require coordination and cooperation without any means of large scale communication.
So, in other words, these 500 million civilian owned guns are completely useless in actually doing what the 2A claims that they are for?
Yarp. The 2A calls for the right to form a militia. If one tried to do so right now I very much believe they would be labeled a terrorist organization and the executive branch would ignore the courts ruling it was their right. Might even be the U.S. born populous that he’s asking El Salvador to open more cells for
These people aren’t organized. There’s no plan or leadership. Sadly, they’re not going to get off their recliner until things effect them personally. Right now, most 2A types unfortunately don’t care that brown people are being trampled. Most of them don’t even know anything is happening at all. When things get bad enough (for them personally), they’ll take action. The question is, will it be too late by then?
So it’s just a bunch of individuals with guns instead of a “well-regulated militia”?
Pretty much, yeah. I’m sure there are some groups out there LARP’ing as soldiers but I’m not counting on them to actually do anything. I would love to be proven wrong but my expectations are currently pretty low.
Wait, he’s getting a hearing? We’re still doing that?
I wouldn’t bet on it being anything fair.
Why do we need to know that the woman is massive? The title is strange.
harmless joke got mass. downvoted
