Protesting needs to evolve. Amazing turnout, but there needs to be a goal. Something like, let’s cancel Amazon Prime. It’s needs to be attainable. Boycott everything day is dumb. How about move your money to a credit union day?
It’s good to see people politically animated, but these protests are largely ‘controlled opposition’. It’s an emergency venting valve where the people’s frustration is channeled into a meaningless whistle.
The whole system is rotted. The democrats are not fighting for the small folk at all. If anything, a branch of the party is probably relieved that the republicans moved the overton window so far right.
Real change will require actual upheaval. You can’t vote or protest your way out of this shit. Major civilian disobedience and unionizing is required across the board. There are some of us (working class) that are doing some tedial unassuming maintenance in the orphan crushing machine. We won’t get anywhere as long as people are operating their evil cog as normal. These protests won’t do anything as long as it’s being directed through the democrat pressure valve, as it is built in as a safety device in the orphan crushing machine.
Major civilian disobedience and unionizing is required across the board.
The only way we get there is by getting people out of their houses, away from controlled media, and aware that they’re not alone. Without active, live, out-in-public protest, nobody will feel emboldened to take more radical action; they’ll feel like a lone actor and probably not even start. Civil action en-masse comes first.
Im not alone? Thank goodness, my rent is coming up in 19 days and its the vast majority of my income. Its gonna be nice to have help paying it.
No one disputes the need to get people in the street. I agree with you there.
My cautionary tale is that turning to democrats or other mainstream ““resistance”” is a trap meant to deflate popular morale.
Basically, people with clever signs marching on a predetermined, law enforcement lined, route until they want to open the roads up to traffic again, having gained zero ground aside from the personal fulfillment of being able to say I did my part to force change !
Meanwhile, nothing changed and gets worse every day.
because protesting is useless bullshit. people need to get more comfortable with direct action.
Both are needed.
less time spent impotently protesting and more time spent doing things that might actually have some effect is probably for the better.
Protesting demonstrates that people are available to be radicalized. It’s the first step.
I think it’s already pretty fucking clear that there are people available to be radicalized.
And yet they need to be visible.
They are.
People also need to have community to engage in collective action. Do you not understand that the things you want to happen cannot happen without the social foundation?
- Trump and his goons are traitors
- A corporate takeover of the US has been planned for a long time
- We will not vote our way out of this
1 and 2 completely agree, but 3 is quitter talk. We don’t need any of that.
Who said anything about quitting?
The last three elections had the highest voter turnout in recorded American history. This isn’t a voting problem anymore, because our voting system, our very democratic process, has been compromised with social manipulation and leveraged against us.
We will not rush the polls and fix this.
We don’t necessarily need to do an armed insurrection to fix this, but we have to get a LOT more active and a LOT more involved in our local leadership and representation, we have to argue a LOT more with our shitty uncle who gets all his news from Newsmax and nobody ever pushes back on him. We have to fight ICE in the streets and post it to social media and make resistance cool. We have to stop buying shit. Not a dumbass protest against a single company or product, just start saving your damn money and stop wasting it on games and booze and drugs. Seriously, take the money OUT of their hands. Start getting healthy, active and smart.
It will take generations to fix this, but it starts now with you getting up and walking somewhere and telling a total stranger “I can’t believe how much we pay in taxes and they couldn’t lower the price of groceries!” No wokescolding, no lectures, just do everything you can to make people mad at the actual enemy, the corporations and the wealthy.
just start saving your damn money and stop wasting it on games and booze and drugs
No
You’re going to lose porn if you don’t get serious. Make a choice.
If history has taught us anything, it’s that the porn always wins.
Trying to fight apathy here is like swimming against a current of pure laziness and despair.
Ya’ll need to take some walks and eat a salad.
Pick up a history book.
You don’t vote fascists out.
To be fair, we did vote him out once before.
However, I doubt they’ll allow it to happen again.
that was due to a fluke and technicality, that is covid.
It’s not quitter talk. It is opening a discussion for a workaround.
Traitors and child fuckers.
child rapists. FIFY
We will not vote our way out of this
Nope. That option disappeared on November 5, 2024.
You cannot allow fascists to have total control of a government and then expect to vote your way back to normality.
Lots of people are going to have to die to end this. And we’ll probably go through a prolonged period of a decline of our quality of life before that happens. Then a prolonged period of recovery. And it could have easily been avoided if Americans had pulled their heads out of their asses and rubbed a couple brain cells together.
Buckle up kids.
It disappeared before 2024.
Agreed, but this has been brewing for over 18 years. Today’s MAGA were yesteryear’s Tea Party members. They liked to wear funny “patriotic” hats and discuss conspiracy theory level politics. Easily guided and basically brainless, if you hold up a picture of a liberal they would run at it screaming profanities like some weird carrot on a stick. They ALMOST destroyed the Republican party with that craziness … but the party just steered into it and now rides the wave.
There has been a massive, multi-pronged assault on just our rights and our values, but our very attention-spans and cognitive capabilities to resist the corporate takeover.
Do ya’ll really think that they’re collecting your personal data to sell you targeted products you want?
They want to know what everyone’s limits are, they want to know how much you pay attention, they want to know how much discomfort you will endure before you get mad, they want to know what placates you, they want to know what makes you feel good and comfortable so they can distill whatever that is and turn it into concentrated slop to keep you in your chair.
This isn’t conspiracy, this is the same thing that’s been to other countries by dictators and oligarchs in the past, usually with things like alcohol or drugs, but the modern world in America is much more complicated so they need a lot of people to click “agree” so they can find out what your weaknesses really are.
A lot of people’s limits are pretty much already reached. Some of us are old, tired, and just not that interested in keeping the greed machine running.
Your average Joe may not grab a rifle and run at the illegal National Guards that have been deployed or do a Luigi… but if those average Joe’s happen to see someone else do somwthing like that it will be good odds that they won’t remember what the person looked like or which way they ran after they did it.
Largest days of protest so far
Awesome. And what did it do?
Oh yeah, nothing
Any protest will not do anything unless it becomes violent or if it doesn’t stop until change has been enacted
501c organizations and feds
great
now do it again, but really show that you mean business. in a way that the fascists will understand and be scared of
While media attention is often focused on actors acquiescing to Trump’s demands, in the streets the popular protest movement continues to push back against the administration with notable persistence over time.
No lie, that’s some good news.
Everyone had a good time, then went home and nothing was changed.
Eventually the fascist will infiltrate and incite violence so they can move in and kill.
And when they do, they need to be met by the same violence. It takes an awful lot to fight fascism, and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, but that is where USA is. Innocent people are going to die before it gets better.
Because we’re still all under the delusion that we live in a civilized country with laws and fairness.
I think if people here had ever actually been in a fascist dictatorship before, those marches wouldn’t have ended with everyone going home and sharing pictures on social media, it would have ended with capitol buildings set ablaze and an embarrassed and disheveled president being dragged out to a military tribunal or locked in a jail cell until trial.
You know, the thing that actually happens in places where this has happened before.
History teaches us when protests and marches go unacknowledged riots and civil disobedience follow
Non-violence won’t effect lasting change. Violence against the oppressors and their enforcers is how to effect change. Hit them where they live and when they least expect it.
Non-violence has it’s place. But marches alone will not change anything. What the US needs is actual disruptions (i.e strikes and sabotages) as well as a credible radical flank
What US needs is some coherent political movement from anyone but monsters. All the disruptions in the world mean shit if there is no proper followup from a group of people who has their shit together. If literal magical aliens come tomorrow and organise a total proper strike that will change absolutely nothing because there is no group that can do demands and see that they are met. American left doesn’t exist, and those small groups that exist are unified only and exclusively by their visceral hatred of liberals and smaller but still visceral disdain of other small groups of American left, and American liberals are stunned and terrified and can’t do shit.
The protests can in theory let people form those needed connections, but doesn’t seem to be doing it quickly enough.
Sweet, keep up brave Americans!
I think that peaceful and defiant protest are the anvil and hammer of social reform. Without each other, it is hard to change society into a more useful shape. These two wings are part of the same animal, and only work if they cooperate.
The Black Panthers were great, because they created social programs like feeding schoolchildren, while offering physical protection to the people under their care. We need Rainbow Panthers to help support the MLKs and Malcoms of our day.
It’s important to note how the Black Panthers used “violence”. There were very few incidents where they actually fired their guns, and when they did, they were arguably baited into doing it by the FBI and local cops.
Their best tactic was just hanging around with an AK on their back while a cop did their racial profiling thing to somebody else. They’d keep a book of laws handy and give the person advice from the sidelines. If they didn’t have a gun, the cop would likely have found some pretext to arrest them and that’d be it. With a gun, the cop thinks twice and puts up with it. It wasn’t there to actually be fired, but to make sure everyone behaved themselves.
This was so effective they changed California’s open carry law to stop it. It’s estimated that there were only around 100 Black Panthers at the time.
That is why I use the word “defiance”. It is not violence, it is just a refusal to be bullied. We should put forth our own words to describe things, not let the media paint our movements in the light that they prefer.
is there even one protest for the release of the files, and the fact that MISS “kungfu coordinator” just had a work release program.
