I mean I didn’t say that was poor, right? It’s nice. I’m not complaining. But it’s not filthy rich.
We have a 15-20 years on you. I hope you get there. Fifteen years ago… we were barely scraping by. I think my wife was practically a professional couponer. We couldn’t afford for her to work. We had a car repossessed.
I wasn’t trying to argue other than the idea that I don’t realize my privilege — I did still call not having to check my bank account for groceries “rich”, right?
We must be having two very different conversations.
I guess. My problem is with you trying to delineate varying levels of “rich” like “filthy rich” was anything other than an opinion to begin with. Adding in that my opinion is that if you can afford to feed 7 mouths without budgeting in this economy then you really shouldn’t be trying to defend yourself as not “filthy rich”.
My initial comment was meant cynically.
“Filthy rich” surely doesn’t apply to someone that can feed some people without budgeting. That is not living, that is survival. Here (Germany) we’d say you’d need about 250k for a kid til it gets 18. Working-class-level. It gets waaaay higher with private schools and such.
And we don’t even pay for healthcare (unless you want to) nor college.
4 kids comes to a mil. And that’s just the kids. Parents are likely living some place and maybe even have hobbies besides working and kids (though probably not with that many kids)
I was referring to a level of “filthy rich” where you have that amount of cash for each kids AND yourselves. And in the case of the USA even another 100k (or whatever) for each kid’s college.
And oh boy will all that money go to waste if one kid ends up sick.
And maybe your kid wants to go to some famous school or want a pony or become a skydiver.
But hey, to each their own. I wouldn’t even find the time for a job with all my hobbies, let alone one single kid 😁
It doesn’t matter if you meant to be cynical or not. My wife and I literally cannot afford to have any kids and this asshole is humble bragging about being able to afford 5. It was a tone deaf comment at best and I felt like calling it out. I’m honestly not sure why you and I got pounced on by the hivemind for it.
Ah who cares. One must NEVER dare to speak against breeding. To me it’s child-abuse to throw kids knowingly into poverty. But to most people it’s their birthright to procreate and they love doing it. You’re not fulfilled until you have offspring.
Just be glad you’re not one of them and simply THINK before. Even if the result might not be what you guys want.
…do you not think there are varying levels of wealth? I don’t have to check my bank account before I go shopping, but I’m also not getting a steak or stocking up on cocktails or anything like that. I can’t go out and buy a house. I can’t go out and buy a car. I can’t go out and buy a computer or a gaming console or a fancy purse. I simply am comfortable enough to afford basic foods without worry.
If that makes me FILTHY RICH, then I would love to know how you describe the people with actual generational wealth.
I mean I didn’t say that was poor, right? It’s nice. I’m not complaining. But it’s not filthy rich.
We have a 15-20 years on you. I hope you get there. Fifteen years ago… we were barely scraping by. I think my wife was practically a professional couponer. We couldn’t afford for her to work. We had a car repossessed.
I really don’t think you are arguing what you think you are arguing. But good for you I guess.
I wasn’t trying to argue other than the idea that I don’t realize my privilege — I did still call not having to check my bank account for groceries “rich”, right?
We must be having two very different conversations.
I guess. My problem is with you trying to delineate varying levels of “rich” like “filthy rich” was anything other than an opinion to begin with. Adding in that my opinion is that if you can afford to feed 7 mouths without budgeting in this economy then you really shouldn’t be trying to defend yourself as not “filthy rich”.
My initial comment was meant cynically. “Filthy rich” surely doesn’t apply to someone that can feed some people without budgeting. That is not living, that is survival. Here (Germany) we’d say you’d need about 250k for a kid til it gets 18. Working-class-level. It gets waaaay higher with private schools and such. And we don’t even pay for healthcare (unless you want to) nor college. 4 kids comes to a mil. And that’s just the kids. Parents are likely living some place and maybe even have hobbies besides working and kids (though probably not with that many kids)
I was referring to a level of “filthy rich” where you have that amount of cash for each kids AND yourselves. And in the case of the USA even another 100k (or whatever) for each kid’s college. And oh boy will all that money go to waste if one kid ends up sick. And maybe your kid wants to go to some famous school or want a pony or become a skydiver.
But hey, to each their own. I wouldn’t even find the time for a job with all my hobbies, let alone one single kid 😁
It doesn’t matter if you meant to be cynical or not. My wife and I literally cannot afford to have any kids and this asshole is humble bragging about being able to afford 5. It was a tone deaf comment at best and I felt like calling it out. I’m honestly not sure why you and I got pounced on by the hivemind for it.
Ah who cares. One must NEVER dare to speak against breeding. To me it’s child-abuse to throw kids knowingly into poverty. But to most people it’s their birthright to procreate and they love doing it. You’re not fulfilled until you have offspring. Just be glad you’re not one of them and simply THINK before. Even if the result might not be what you guys want.
…do you not think there are varying levels of wealth? I don’t have to check my bank account before I go shopping, but I’m also not getting a steak or stocking up on cocktails or anything like that. I can’t go out and buy a house. I can’t go out and buy a car. I can’t go out and buy a computer or a gaming console or a fancy purse. I simply am comfortable enough to afford basic foods without worry.
If that makes me FILTHY RICH, then I would love to know how you describe the people with actual generational wealth.