The Orange Turd is an economic genius.
There’s always a tweet.
This is apparently a fake tweet. An archive of the actual tweet corresponding to that datetime is here.
Thanks, though correct grammar kind of gave it away already.
Looking at that archived Tweet, I forgot what it was like for Twitter responses to not be unhinged
I forgot what it was like to actually be able to see Twitter responses.
He says enough horrible stuff to not have to fake any of it
1500!!!
I didn’t have much in but I’m divesting from all stocks and cashing out. Everyone should sell it all and let the market crash.
I sold out everything back in Feb. I even processed a 401K to a roll-over IRA just so I could hold the money in cash. The money-market account is paying around 4% right now.
This orange moron is going to cause a massive worldwide recession and a depression in the U.S.
I’ll reinvest in a few years.
Get some EUR, GBP, gold, bitcoin. Dxy is down ~10% since Feb. USD to 0
Maybe whatever civilization replaces the US will learn from our mistakes and never, under any circumstances allow a single person to have the ability to set any kind of policy. Hopefully they also don’t leave gigantic weapons that can destroy the country all over the legal tapestry and use the honor system to control their usage.
Who are you kidding we’re going to put lead back into everything again just for fun.
It’s not one person charting this path.
Us humans have been making the same mistakes for thousands of years. Lather, rinse,repeat.
Screen of the WSJ on mobile. For posterity.
Do you think Trump, Musk and their oligarch insider friends maybe, just maybe, opened short positions on a bunch of stock ahead of the new tariff announcement?
This is my thought exactly.
I watched Steven Colbert yesterday saying that this large of a fuck up is proof there is no deep state. While I get his point, I disagree. If there is someone in the shadows pulling strings this was the intended outcome.
It’s pretty well known that in trading markets, there’s almost always something that goes up when everything else drops like a rock. Even as such, moving money to be liquid right before a steep drop off, then buying up all the formerly high-value stocks at bargain basement pricing, and just waiting for the rebound, is a legit strategy. Having foreknowledge of such an action is considered insider trading however. Realistically, insider trading is difficult to prove unless the perpetrator is an idiot.
Whether you call it the deep state or the 1% or oligarchs, or simply “rich assholes”, if you believe there is a group orchestrating things, then you beat believe this was the intended outcome.
Nothing needs to go up. Shorting stocks lets you make money off of them when they go down. If a person or group of people can cause a crash and know in advance what day it’s happening, they can borrow stocks and then buy the stock to repay the loan at a lower price and pocket the change.
Isn’t the value of short position rising?
Now we know why he’s keeping Elon around, he needs a lift.
Such incredible foresight from Elon—parking a Tesla in orbit around the sun for this particular occasion!
Another one from 2012:
Unfortunately, this one wasn’t a real tweet. It seems real, but it’s not.
His MAGA fans likely don’t have anything in the market, or they don’t think they do, so they think this won’t affect them. They are in for a rude awakening.
No they are all over invested in the market. The techbros. The effective altruists. The boomers and anyone wealthy. They voted for Trump to pump their bags and dont care about anything else. Only the dirt poor maga aren’t baws deep.
I am actually getting worried about the leopards health, are there too many faces for them to eat? Do we need to ensure they stay healthy and in shape to better continue eating all the faces by restricting the amount of faces they can eat in day?
The leopards eating faces are becoming obese.
Yep. The market is a lot like politics that way.
You might not take an interest in markets, but markets take an interest in YOU.
Down 3,163.27 since inauguration.
US fire sale!! 🔥 every stock must go! 🔥 15-25% off priced to sell! 🔥 hurry, these deals won’t last!* 🔥
*profits not guaranteed. in the event of mass economic collapse, cross your fingers for a bail out. This is not financial advice.
3% It dropped 3%.
3% = DJIA just closed its worst day since June 2020
Time for the rich to buy stocks on discount.
Idk, when do they buy? This shit has to go way more south before our dear great leader decides to undo the tariffs, right? And if he doesn’t undo them, when would it go back up? We’re still in a race to the bottom…
Even if he does undo them there’s no telling when he’ll put them back in place again on a whim. Everyone abandoning the market isn’t going to come back unless Trump gets Epstein’d or Luigi’d.
Knowing Trump’s irrationality, he just wants to erase all the market gains from when Biden was in office. That means he’ll keep at it until the DOW looses another 10,000 points or so.
Well I just bought some inverse SP500 x3 ETF so I’ll hold onto that until we reach the new great depression
That sounds like sunscreen
LOL, good luck with that.
(Inverse ETFs, especially leveraged ones, don’t work the way you think they do. They’re not really intended or suitable for anything but day-trading.)
U right, made up some of my losses today but I do plan to sell as soon as it looks sort of stable then I’ll just buy a long put
I lost a lot of money today, but I’m still up from 6 months ago.
This is going to last a long time and the recession is when they’ll buy.
Assuming the US can recover…
Normally Trump does what’s best for the ultra wealthy, but de-dollarization of the world economy appears to be good for nobody in the USA. I have no clue what they’re trying to do, I suspect he’s just lost it and there’s nobody left to tell him these tariffs hurt his croneys too.
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re already too far along to save the dollar’s position globally. Globally that’s probably a good thing, but for any of us in the US it’s decidely not.
Russia wins…
As confusing as it is this does still all fit into Theil’s plan to isolate the US in order to create a corpo-fascist state and bring back apartheid.
I have no clue what they’re trying to do
They published it online. project 2025. They straight up told you what they’re going to do. Add in pooty, whose goals align a great deal, and that’s it. How do people still not get this, they told you what they’re doing.
What does Project 2025 have to say about tariffs?
Project 2025 is split on the issue of foreign trade.[109] Mandate author Peter Navarro advocates what he calls a fair trade policy of reciprocal, higher tariffs on the European Union, China, and India, to achieve a balance of trade, though not all U.S. levies are lower than those of its major trading partners.[126] On the other hand, Mandate author Kent Lassman of the Competitive Enterprise Institute promotes a free trade policy of lowering or eliminating tariffs to cut costs for consumers, and calls for more free trade agreements.[126] He argues that Trump’s and Biden’s tariffs have undermined not just the American economy, but also the nation’s international alliances.[117]
The first guy won apparently.
Right, he did, but here’s my point: Project 2025 doesn’t actually come out clearly for or against tariffs. So in so far as “they wrote it all down in Project 2025 and told you exactly what they’re going to do”, that’s just not the case for tariffs. And even the guy in favor of tariffs wasn’t talking about such broad and strong tariffs all at once.
In other words, this is Trump’s plan on his own.
Yeah, that’s just Trump. He likes to be vengeful and a bully, using tariffs like a stick to beat others info submission. But he doesn’t seem to know when enough is enough.
I think it’s more to the point to say he’s trying to destroy America, period.
It’s what Putin has been using his puppet for this whole time.
America falls apart, Russia gains.
I have no clue what they’re trying to do
Treason.
Pig Boy thinks he’s Napoleon, but he’s actually dry rot fungus.
with this move they seem to want to stop the rich from paying taxes and replace them with tariffs. the poor will end up paying them.
he hinted at it a few times. to be clear, i think its still dumb as fuck but here it is.
If it doesn’t, the rich will still be fine. Unlike most Americans, they can diversify outside of the US.
That’s not how it works. Stock prices don’t fall below the level that rich people are willing to buy them at, specifically because rich people buy them at that level.
It’s good for them when they can buy other people’s stock at fire sale prices, it’s less good for them when their own stock is reduced to fire sale prices.
It’s only a concern if you need to sell during the downturn.
Hopefully the market can remain irrational longer than they can remain solvent.
And it isn’t good for them if stock growth doesn’t happen because American companies lose market share.
I wish there was some way to have seen this coming! Lol
On one side, this is awesome because companies should tend to the needs of their customers instead of investors.
On the other, fuck my retirement fund
I was considering trying to cash out my 401k and ira in the US (I bought my first house and I think that’s one of the allowed cases), but hadn’t worked out the details yet. Guess that’s not happening right now. I no longer live in the US and will probably renounce citizenship once my parents go.
I looked at my other investments this morning based on this post and… Lol. Granted, I only one a handful, but it still hurts. My stock that was worth only like 40 cents moved up 5+% so yay for that, I guess.
What happens to your 401k and IRA if you’ve moved abroad and renounce your citizenship? Will it ever be paid out?
Not an American so I honestly don’t know.
I don’t know either. I imagine it just lives on. I can’t put money in them now from Japan anyway (well, unless I want to pay some taxes in the US on top of what I pay here; no thanks). I can’t use Japan’s equivalent either since the US tax authorities will massacre you with paperwork and fines (PFICs). If social security still exists, I worked long enough in the US to get that and it doesn’t matter for that if I renounce.
If social security still exists, I worked long enough in the US to get that and it doesn’t matter for that if I renounce.
Well, hope they won’t change the rules around that if it does still exist by the time you retire. Though generally such things aren’t done retroactively I believe. Once you’ve earned it, you’ve earned it. Even if rules change for future folks. At least in sane countries, but of course we’re talking about the US…
These rules aren’t set by God. Earning it is pretty meaningless.
There is a totalization agreement with the japanese govt, so I could theoretically do something before renouncing, but I’ve never looked into it. I liked the idea of having both for diversity and safety
That wouldn’t effect legal agreements. if he’s still the owner of the accounts the are still enforced, at least when there was a functioning system in place to enforce contracts with in the US legal and banking systems.
Got my family out last year, I commute back and forth.
There is something really sick about watching this from overseas, like watching paramedics carry bodies out of a car crash.
But it was no fun when I was there.
Fucking morons shooting themselves in the balls to look tough.
I’ve only been twice in the last decade: once the year after I moved and summer 2022ish. It’s just crazy to watch. My family just offered to pay for us to fly out for vacation but I declined. My non-white wife that doesn’t really speek English + immigration now means we’re not going near the place.
To be fair, the market is roughly at where it was in September (pending further tanking). So, not a huge difference…yet.
