• JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
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    Don’t worry, Senator Collins voted against it so she can show Maine how fucking moderate she is.

    After checking with the party first to make sure they had the votes…

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    Well it’s obvious she wants to be seen as a loyal GOP supporter or Trump with her ‘yes’ vote, but still wants the bill to be delayed. Having the house delay the bill makes her look like a loyal lapdog for optics, but secretly wants changes and can blame someone else for the bill being delayed instead of having the delay blamed on her vote

    Coward

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      secretly wants changes and can blame someone else

      So many of these Republicans are fully aware that the bill will break the back of the healthcare industry in their states. None of them want to stick their necks out for it, though. The mega-donors will forgive them in the end, but the primary voters are only going to hear “You’re a Secret Democrat for voting against MAGA”.

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    I am honestly suicidal over how blithely these ghouls are playing with our health and safety. Every day, I read a new article about how some white dipshit from the fringes of InfoWars and Christian grifting thinks that he knows better than my fucking doctor. I should just start treating my congresspeople like doctors and start mailing samples of my piss and shit to their offices. After all, they’re the ones making my medical decisions.

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      Don’t kill yourself.

      But if you do, maybe consider making it worth it and becoming a hero/legend to the rest of us. You may take this to mean whatever you think it means.

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      While I understand you may have meant that as a figure of speech, I also don’t want to shrug what you typed off either. Politics can be very stressful, and the challenges in our life can feel completely overwhelming at times. If you are truly feeling hopeless, please reach out for help. If you’re in the US you can call 988. If you’re elsewhere please reach out to a friend, emergency services, or even a stranger. The world is a better place with you than without you.

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      She is more centrist than most Republicans, but she’s still afraid of being primaried.

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        I don’t buy it. There a small handful of them like her, and they just trade off who gets to act more centrist, but always leaving enough votes to pass the BS they want to pass. Its a ruse so they can keep winning their seats so people can say, see, she’s better than others.

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          And on the other side, always just enough dems to thwart any meaningful progress even when they’re given majorities, even “super” that one time, that actually then wasn’t.

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    Passing the buck. Coward. You’re a US Senator. Act like it.

    (though I guess these days cowardice is exemplary of Senate behavior).

    Also, I’m totally sure Walz would’ve cast the tie-breaking vote for such a shit bill, isn’t that right couch sitters / stein voters? Try not to fall for the right-wing wedge driving disinfo ops next time please… If there is a next time.

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      Try not to fall for the right-wing wedge driving disinfo ops next time please…

      You say as you push more right-wing disinformation.

      https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-election-non-voters-coalition

      The Democrats wanted Trump to get elected which is why they threw the election in favor of him by running on a platform of watered-down Republicanism. These are the same people that passed Trump’s budget bill earlier this year, which retroactively made all of his illegal executive orders legal, and who just voted against impeaching Trump. They want these tax cuts for the wealthy and all the other abhorrent, vulture capitalistic shit just as much as Republicans do.

      Take off your blinders already and stop supporting fascists.

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        Hahaha bystanders observe the absurdity of this claim. Talk about a non-sequitur.

        I’m all for shitting on AIPAC Dems, but all this proves is that right-wing disinfo ops convinced people like you to amplify their bullshit and sway larger swaths of people. So good job parroting right-wing disinfo when you could’ve done hard work actually telling people what Harris was without question the better candidate on a multitude of issues.

        Maybe less drinking right-wing kool-aid and more door-knocking.

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          You can’t even respond to the multiple pieces of evidence listed demonstrating that Democrats collude with Republicans against the populace and instead have to resort to ad hominems. People like you are the reason why Trump is on his second term as president and why the Republicans control the entire government. You’re working for the fascists and you can’t even see it.

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            Because it’s irrelevant. Even entertaining collusion, your argument that we cut out the middleman and hand the keys to the GOP is unquestionably worse in every logical way.

            Last I checked, Dems gave more aid to Ukraine. Are you saying you’re complicit on the Russian genocide against Ukraine?

            You’re the reason we have Trump. Absurd.

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              How the fuck is the DNC actively sabotaging themselves and acting as little more than controlled opposition in elections “irrelevant” to the fact that Republicans now run the entire government? This is complete nonsense.

              There’s no “handing the keys to the GOP” when they already have the keys precisely because of Democratic aid that they continue to give to this very day.

              Last I checked, Dems gave more aid to Ukraine. Are you saying you’re complicit on the Russian genocide against Ukraine?

              More nonsense. You’re clearly unable defend your position and you refuse to even acknowledge the mountain of evidence against it, so now you just resort to acting like a short-circuiting chat bot trained on Nancy Pelosi’s talking points.

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                So you’re condoning genocide and dodging the fact that Democrats were objectively better for the people of Ukraine?

                Classic deflection.

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        I said right-wing, not Russia. Try again, maybe?

        But now that you mention it, the MUh boTH sides false equivalence fallacy is textbook Russian IRA troll farm tactics though. No surprise Republicans are in bed with Russians I suppose.

        BTW, that you fixated on this destroys any credibility you may have had.

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          I said right-wing, not Russia.

          Oh you’re right, my bad.

          But now that you mention it, the MUh boTH sides false equivalence fallacy is textbook Russian IRA troll farm tactics though.

          Because the Democrats weren’t supporting Israel’s genocide just as vigorously as the Republicans? Remember the North Gaza offensive? The war with Lebanon? Bombing the shit out of Syria? Sometimes equivalence can be true, too.

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            Let’s pretend they’re the same on genocide (they’re not, because Harris wouldn’t have advocated turning it into a riviera, cut USAID that helped Gazans, or escalated in bombing Iran, leaving aside the fact that Bibi explicitly wanted), but:

            In a binary choice election with the inevitable choices being Harris or Trump, one opted to assert both sides / false equivalence Harris being obviously better on:

            • Climate Change
            • Healthcare
            • LGBTQ+ rights
            • Women’s bodily autonomy
            • Ukraine (and Russia’s ongoing genocide in Ukraine; so are bystanders complicit in genocide there?)
            • Economic Inequality
            • Immigration

            Instead one enabled victory for the person who was not only worse in 1 genocide but arguably 3 genocides when counting Ukraine and Climate Change.

            It logically makes zero sense.

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              Harris wouldn’t have advocated turning it into a riviera

              I’m sure the dead would take great solace that their killer didn’t also have real estate ambitions.

              leaving aside the fact that Bibi explicitly wanted

              Biden was not known for standing up to Israel, to put it mildly. When Harris was asked what she’d do differently than Biden, her answer was “there is not a thing that comes to mind.” She later amended that to “what’s the difference between Joe Biden and me? … I’m going to have a Republican in my cabinet”.

              LGBTQ+ rights

              The “T” there being the people the Dems immediately tried to throw under the bus when they lost?

              Economic Inequality

              I mean, look at all the love and support the party is showing Mamdani after he kicked Cuomo’s ass in the primary 🙄

              Look, I get your point, and I voted for Harris (grudgingly), but until we primary enough of these crusty old Republican-lites in party leadership these losses are just going to get worse. They yelled and screamed (rightly) about how Democracy was on the line, and when their option was “save Democracy or move right” they chose the latter.

              Respectfully, I don’t see the sense in complaining about “wedge issues” and then turning around and driving wedges between you and other people trying to get the party’s head out of its ass.

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                I love how you dodged more than half of the issues, knowing you didn’t have jack shit. Respectfully, of course.

                Sounds like one is complicit in genocide with respect to both climate change and Ukraine.

                (by the way: you love mamdani; if they’re all the same, why did he run as a Democrat? You should hate him too, right? So I guess they’re not all the same and Democrats are, objectively better, is that right?)

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                  I love how you dodged more than half of the issues, knowing you didn’t have jack shit.

                  Hence your substantive engagement on what I did mention?

                  you love mamdani

                  Never claimed this.

                  If they’re all the same

                  Never claimed this.

                  You should hate him too, right?

                  None of this is about hate, it’s about which policy decisions are better than others.

                  So I guess they’re not all the same and Democrats are, objectively better, is that right?

                  Again, never claimed.

                  Everything you’re saying comes across as being less about “how do we improve things” and more “I need someone to be angry at.” I would propose directing that anger at the politicians instead of your fellow voters.

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              (they’re not, because Harris wouldn’t have advocated turning it into a riviera, cut USAID that helped Gazans, or escalated in bombing Iran, leaving aside the fact that Bibi explicitly wanted),

              Slightly less fascist rhetoric doesn’t matter if it’s not accompanied by actions, I haven’t heard of significant USAID involvement in Gaza during the war, Democrats haven’t opposed the bombings much* and fascists aren’t the smartest bunch, respectively.

              *This is a valid point, but I disagree. I know about the war powers resolution, but no establishment Democrat leaders have actually indicated they’d use that to stop the bombings. Schumer simply wanted the bombings to be done with congressional approval. The bombings are much better understood in terms of Israeli domestic politics given that Netanyahu’s government was facing dissolution. If anything Trump did get Netanyahu to stop; I’m not sure we could expect the same from AIPACrats.

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                Like I said, you willingly threw Ukrainians under the bus in this self-defeating mindset, leaving aside the other issues mentioned…

                So just tell me you don’t care about:

                • Climate Change (and resulting deaths)
                • Healthcare
                • LGBTQ+ rights (and resulting discrimination)
                • Women’s bodily autonomy
                • Ukraine (and Russia’s ongoing genocide in Ukraine; so are bystanders complicit in genocide there?)
                • Economic Inequality
                • Immigration (and resulting deportations, alligator auschwitz, etc.)

                And I’ll actually understand a little better!

                Also you weren’t aware USAID helped Palestinians? Inform yourself! https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-106243#%3A~%3Atext=Fast+Facts%2Cfiscal+years+2020+through+2022.

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                  I’'m not American so I couldn’t vote either way, but calling out assholes like Pelosi and Schumer for being oligarchy and AIPAC stooges is not and was not disinformation. Voting for Harris is its own conversation and has nothing to do with that. Also your link’s information ends in 2022.

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    With the way this bill is moving through the process, I am surprised we have not heard of any democrats slipping in provisions.

    But I guess expecting democrats to do anything resembling opposition is a bit too much to ask for.

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      They tried, but any additions or removals required a vote they lost every time. They of course could have used all their interns time making a list of amendments to be voted on, and then space them out for as long as the GOP kept trying to cram this shit through even though nobody is happy with it.

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    If only there was something she herself could have done to stop it. Like single-handedly, one act that she could have easily chosen to stop this whole damn thing.

    But alas, there was clearly nothing.